Dr Linda Mclver joins the team to discuss the skepticism people have towards data, how it is used, and what we can learn from it. Dr Lina Mclver is the Executive Director at the Australian Data Science Education Institute and is the author of the upcoming book "Raising Heretics: How Data Science Education Can Change the World”. Also on the show is Angie Abdilla, CEO of Old Ways, New, an Indigenous design practice focusing on design for place and country. With presenters Warren Davies, Laura Summers and Jo Eaton.

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