The Second Act with Michael and John

The Second Act with Michael and John

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The Second Act with Michael and John episodes

  • 67: Start With A Win with Adam Contos (Learn How Adam’s Path From Street Hustle to the C-Suite Teaches Momentum, Growth, and Lasting Success)

    Adam Contos turned unconventional beginnings into an extraordinary career, rising from hands-on hustle to lead RE/MAX as CEO. Along the way, he built resilience and sharpened his decision-making in high-pressure environments, lessons that fueled his entrepreneurial spark and opened the door to new opportunities. At RE/MAX, what began as teaching safety to real estate agents evolved into an 18-year climb to the top, proving that consistent effort, courage, and a willingness to take risks can transform a career. Today, Adam channels those experiences as an entrepreneur, professor, author of Start With a Win, and executive coach, showing others how to build momentum, embrace growth, and lead with purpose.


    Starring:

    Michael Newborn (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@michaelnewborn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)

    John Ballenger (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@john-ballenger53⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)


    Guest:

    Adam Contos

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamcontos/

    https://www.adamcontos.com/


    Network/Produced by:

    Seltzer Kings (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@seltzerkings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠seltzerkings.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)


    Theme Music by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Saint Josh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Listen Here:

    Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/71Uji4fPLsnGEJjeAqomiJ?si=77e3d7bb636c422a⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john/id1707412739⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Amazon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a6b369bb-36a9-47ab-9f22-1bacfcff6166/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    iHeart: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-second-act-with-michae-123242148/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


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    Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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    1 hr
  • 66: Strength Through Struggle with Giovanna Camacho (Discover How Giovanna’s Journey from Foster Care to NASA Teaches Resilience, Reinvention, and Finding Your True Path)

    What do a foster kid, a West Point boxer, an Olympic Trials competitor, and a NASA engineer have in common? They are all chapters in the extraordinary journey of Giovanna Camacho. From being taken from her family at 12 to carving her way into West Point and creating the women’s boxing team, she proved early on that grit and resilience would define her path. She went on to lead medical operations, compete at the highest levels of sport, and serve abroad before realizing her true calling as an innovator. By saying yes to every opportunity, from submarines and tanks to human performance systems, Giovanna ultimately found her place at NASA, where she is pioneering wearable technology to help pilots, divers, and the visually impaired. Her story shows that reinvention is possible, and that challenges can be transformed into purpose.


    Starring:

    Michael Newborn (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@michaelnewborn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)

    John Ballenger (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@john-ballenger53⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)


    Guest:

    Giovanna Camacho

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/giovanna-camacho-668998162/

    https://www.instagram.com/dat_cherry_girl_/


    Network/Produced by:

    Seltzer Kings (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@seltzerkings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠) (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠seltzerkings.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠)


    Theme Music by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Saint Josh⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Listen Here:

    Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/71Uji4fPLsnGEJjeAqomiJ?si=77e3d7bb636c422a⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john/id1707412739⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Amazon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a6b369bb-36a9-47ab-9f22-1bacfcff6166/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    iHeart: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-second-act-with-michae-123242148/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Socials:

    Linktree: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠secondactmovement.com

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    1 hr 1 min
  • 65: Reclaiming Real Connection with Joey Odom (What Missing One Moment Taught Him About Life, Family and Focus)

    Joey Odom began his journey in Tulsa, Oklahoma with no clear path, transitioning from theology to marketing at Oral Roberts University before building a 15-year career in commercial real estate. Everything changed when he missed his son’s first soccer goal while looking at his phone, a moment that revealed how deeply technology was affecting his relationships. That experience, combined with a timely conversation with a friend, sparked the idea for Reclaimwell, a company focused on helping people disconnect from their devices and reconnect with what matters most. Guided by faith, a strong sense of purpose, and the belief that change starts with a single choice, Joey left behind a successful career to build a movement centered on presence, intentionality, and generational impact.


    Starring:

    Michael Newborn (⁠⁠⁠⁠@michaelnewborn⁠⁠⁠⁠)

    John Ballenger (⁠⁠⁠⁠@john-ballenger53⁠⁠⁠⁠)


    Guest:

    Joey Odom

    https://www.goaro.com/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/joeyodom


    Network/Produced by:

    Seltzer Kings (⁠⁠⁠⁠@seltzerkings⁠⁠⁠⁠) (⁠⁠⁠⁠seltzerkings.com⁠⁠⁠⁠)


    Theme Music by ⁠⁠⁠⁠Saint Josh⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Listen Here:

    Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/71Uji4fPLsnGEJjeAqomiJ?si=77e3d7bb636c422a⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john/id1707412739⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Amazon: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a6b369bb-36a9-47ab-9f22-1bacfcff6166/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john⁠⁠⁠⁠

    iHeart: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-second-act-with-michae-123242148/⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Socials:

    Linktree: ⁠⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠

    LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠

    YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠⁠

    Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠secondactmovement.com

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    1 hr 3 min
  • 64: Build Your Breakaway with Michaella Gallina (Lessons in Financial Independence and Fearless Reinvention from Wall Street to Life on Her Terms)

    Michaella Gallina grew up in a rural town of 4,000 where hard work and grit were ingrained early, riding horses to track practice and dreaming of something more. Determined to create her own path, she earned a full scholarship to the University of Denver, studied finance, and broke into Wall Street, eventually managing multi-billion dollar portfolios, meeting CEOs like Zuckerberg and Cook, and becoming CFO of a $100 million fintech company. After years of relentless pressure, she reached a breaking point, streaming tears on a flight to Toronto, and realized it was time to reclaim her life. Walking away from the corporate world became the most empowering decision she ever made, and it sparked a new mission: helping women master their finances, unlock freedom, and boldly design their second act with purpose and possibility.


    Starring:

    Michael Newborn (⁠⁠⁠@michaelnewborn⁠⁠⁠)

    John Ballenger (⁠⁠⁠@john-ballenger53⁠⁠⁠)


    Guest:

    Michaella Gallina

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaellag/

    https://www.michaellagallina.com/


    Network/Produced by:

    Seltzer Kings (⁠⁠⁠@seltzerkings⁠⁠⁠) (⁠⁠⁠seltzerkings.com⁠⁠⁠)


    Theme Music by ⁠⁠⁠Saint Josh⁠⁠⁠


    Listen Here:

    Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/71Uji4fPLsnGEJjeAqomiJ?si=77e3d7bb636c422a⁠⁠⁠

    Apple: ⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john/id1707412739⁠⁠⁠

    Amazon: ⁠⁠⁠https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a6b369bb-36a9-47ab-9f22-1bacfcff6166/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john⁠⁠⁠

    iHeart: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-second-act-with-michae-123242148/⁠⁠⁠


    Socials:

    Linktree: ⁠⁠⁠linktr.ee/secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠

    Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠

    LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠

    Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠

    YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠⁠

    Website: ⁠⁠⁠secondactmovement.com

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    56 min
  • 63: Bet on Yourself with Collin Strachan (What off-grid living and brand storytelling teach us about reinvention)

    Collin Strachan began life battling severe autoimmune disorders that nearly left him blind and bedridden, but through resilience, fitness, and mindset, he overcame his health challenges and reclaimed his future. After working in corporate marketing in Dallas, he walked away from the comfort of a steady paycheck in 2017 to pursue a deeper calling for creativity and adventure. With his wife Kendall, he launched Every Mile Creative, a bold move into off-grid living, full-time Airstream travel, and capturing wild, remote landscapes through cinematic storytelling. A few courageous decisions later, including an uncertain drive to Alaska during the pandemic, their niche production company now serves top brands with unforgettable campaigns. Fueled by grit, purpose, and a refusal to settle, Collin’s journey is a testament to betting on yourself, embracing discomfort, and building a life worth remembering.


    Starring:

    Michael Newborn (⁠⁠@michaelnewborn⁠⁠)

    John Ballenger (⁠⁠@john-ballenger53⁠⁠)


    Guest:

    Collin Strachan

    Join Collin's ⁠Become Unforgettable⁠ community!

    Find Collin @ https://www.linkedin.com/in/collinstrachan/

    Find Collin's company @ https://www.alaskaproductioncompany.com/


    Network/Produced by:

    Seltzer Kings (⁠⁠@seltzerkings⁠⁠) (⁠⁠seltzerkings.com⁠⁠)


    Theme Music by ⁠⁠Saint Josh⁠⁠


    Listen Here:

    Spotify: ⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/71Uji4fPLsnGEJjeAqomiJ?si=77e3d7bb636c422a⁠⁠

    Apple: ⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john/id1707412739⁠⁠

    Amazon: ⁠⁠https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a6b369bb-36a9-47ab-9f22-1bacfcff6166/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john⁠⁠

    iHeart: ⁠⁠https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-second-act-with-michae-123242148/⁠⁠


    Socials:

    Linktree: ⁠⁠linktr.ee/secondactmovement⁠⁠

    Instagram: ⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠

    LinkedIn: ⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠

    Facebook: ⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠

    YouTube: ⁠⁠@secondactmovement⁠⁠

    Website: ⁠⁠secondactmovement.com

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    58 min
  • 62: Roots to Resilience with Ali Schroer (A Psychotherapist, Mental Health Expert and Well-Being Advisor Discusses Slowing Down, Reconnecting, and Thriving in a Fast World)

    Ali Schroer, MSW, LCSW, C-PD grew up in California and Indiana, where early experiences navigating change and hardship sparked her passion for supporting others. Inspired by a deep love for children and a family legacy in mental health, she pursued a career in elementary education, only to realize that her true calling was in helping people with their emotional wellbeing. After witnessing firsthand the profound impact of stress on students and families, she transitioned into clinical social work, earning her master’s degree from the University of Denver and training at top institutions like Children’s Hospital Colorado. Combining over a decade of private practice experience with a bold vision to drive greater change, Ali pivoted once more into corporate mental health. She founded Mental Scope Consulting to bring evidence-based resilience and performance strategies to organizations and leaders. Today, she helps individuals and businesses navigate stress, burnout, and personal growth with a unique blend of compassion, practical tools, and a belief that struggling well is the key to thriving in work and life.


    Starring:

    Michael Newborn (⁠@michaelnewborn⁠)

    John Ballenger (⁠@john-ballenger53⁠)


    Guest:

    Ali Schroer

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ali-schroer/

    http://www.mentalscopeconsulting.com/


    Network/Produced by:

    Seltzer Kings (⁠@seltzerkings⁠) (⁠seltzerkings.com⁠)


    Theme Music by ⁠Saint Josh⁠


    Listen Here:

    Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/71Uji4fPLsnGEJjeAqomiJ?si=77e3d7bb636c422a⁠

    Apple: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john/id1707412739⁠

    Amazon: ⁠https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a6b369bb-36a9-47ab-9f22-1bacfcff6166/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john⁠

    iHeart: ⁠https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-second-act-with-michae-123242148/⁠


    Socials:

    Linktree: ⁠linktr.ee/secondactmovement⁠

    Instagram: ⁠@secondactmovement⁠

    LinkedIn: ⁠@secondactmovement⁠

    Facebook: ⁠@secondactmovement⁠

    YouTube: ⁠@secondactmovement⁠

    Website: ⁠secondactmovement.com

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    54 min
  • 61: Cut Loose with Paul Kent (What a Wall Street executive learned by shedding identity, wealth, and limbs to discover what truly lasts)

    After a high-powered Wall Street career and a life defined by achievement, Paul Kent’s world was upended by a rare genetic condition that triggered a decade-long health crisis that nearly took his life. Facing relentless infections, 21 surgeries, and the gradual erosion of his wealth and identity, Paul made a radical decision in 2020: to undergo an experimental double amputation that ultimately saved him. Emerging from surgery not with loss, but with clarity and freedom, Paul stepped into a second act defined by purpose. As founder of the disAbled Life Alliance, he now champions accessibility, reframes disability, and inspires others to find meaning and power in life’s most unexpected turns.


    Starring:

    Michael Newborn (@michaelnewborn)

    John Ballenger (@john-ballenger53)


    Guest:

    Paul Kent

    https://disabledlifealliance.com/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/pkpaulkent/


    Network/Produced by:

    Seltzer Kings (@seltzerkings) (seltzerkings.com)


    Theme Music by Saint Josh


    Listen Here:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/71Uji4fPLsnGEJjeAqomiJ?si=77e3d7bb636c422a

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john/id1707412739

    Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a6b369bb-36a9-47ab-9f22-1bacfcff6166/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john

    iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-second-act-with-michae-123242148/


    Socials:

    Linktree: linktr.ee/secondactmovement

    Instagram: @secondactmovement

    LinkedIn: @secondactmovement

    Facebook: @secondactmovement

    YouTube: @secondactmovement

    Website: secondactmovement.com

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    1 hr 1 min
  • 60: Quieting the Chaos with Brett Murphy (A Guide to Redefining Success on Your Terms)

    Brett Murphy grew up in Colorado, inspired by his grandfather’s small-town five and dime store and his father’s relentless work ethic in real estate. Watching his father pivot from a struggling teacher to a top producing real estate investor instilled in Brett a deep understanding of grit and opportunity. After earning his real estate license in college, he thrived in a booming market, but years of relentless hustle left him burnt out and unfulfilled. A breaking point led him to step back and re-evaluate, ultimately rediscovering his passion for revitalizing spaces. A chance drive through Littleton introduced him to a boarded up 115 year old building, and he saw beyond its worn exterior to a new vision: Murphy’s Variety, a space designed to uplift small businesses and foster community. Through patience, persistence, and embracing the unknown, Brett transformed his own second act while creating opportunities for others to do the same.


    Starring:

    Michael Newborn (@michaelnewborn)

    John Ballenger (@john-ballenger53)


    Guest:

    Brett Murphy

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-murphy-40035068/

    https://www.jamespatrickgwv.com/


    Network/Produced by:

    Seltzer Kings (@seltzerkings) (seltzerkings.com)


    Theme Music by Saint Josh


    Listen Here:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/71Uji4fPLsnGEJjeAqomiJ?si=77e3d7bb636c422a

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john/id1707412739

    Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a6b369bb-36a9-47ab-9f22-1bacfcff6166/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john

    iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-second-act-with-michae-123242148/


    Socials:

    Linktree: linktr.ee/secondactmovement

    Instagram: @secondactmovement

    LinkedIn: @secondactmovement

    Facebook: @secondactmovement

    YouTube: @secondactmovement

    Website: secondactmovement.com

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    57 min
  • 59: Beyond Boundaries with Jasmine Motupalli (The Mindset, Strategies, and Lessons for Fearless Reinvention

    Jasmine Motupalli's journey is a testament to courage, adaptability, and purpose-driven leadership. Growing up in a supportive, education-focused household, she excelled in academics and athletics before attending West Point as part of the first class to enter after 9/11. Commissioned as a military intelligence officer, she deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, where she led with innovation, turning challenges into strengths despite being the only female commander in her brigade. After suffering a combat injury, she transitioned to teaching at West Point, earned a master’s degree from Georgia Tech, and later worked at Gusto, where she built a groundbreaking customer intelligence team with multiple patents pending. In her latest chapter, Jasmine founded The Data Love Company, leveraging data for social impact, particularly in food security, while pursuing a PhD focused on equity and emerging technology. Through every pivot, her story reinforces the power of curiosity, courage, and embracing one's unique path in creating a meaningful second act.


    Starring:

    Michael Newborn (@michaelnewborn)

    John Ballenger (@john-ballenger53)


    Guest:

    Jasmine Motupalli

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasmine-motupalli/


    Network/Produced by:

    Seltzer Kings (@seltzerkings) (seltzerkings.com)


    Theme Music by Saint Josh


    Listen Here:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/71Uji4fPLsnGEJjeAqomiJ?si=77e3d7bb636c422a

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john/id1707412739

    Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a6b369bb-36a9-47ab-9f22-1bacfcff6166/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john

    iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-second-act-with-michae-123242148/


    Socials:

    Linktree: linktr.ee/secondactmovement

    Instagram: @secondactmovement

    LinkedIn: @secondactmovement

    Facebook: @secondactmovement

    YouTube: @secondactmovement

    Website: michaelandjohn.com

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    55 min
  • 58: Start Before Ready with Ayush Gharat (Why Action Beats Perfection In Building Impact and Innovation)

    Ayush Gharat grew up in Bangalore, India, surrounded by entrepreneurs and innovators, which sparked his early fascination with technology. At just 10 years old, he began teaching himself coding, earning an Android development certification by eighth grade. During the COVID-19 pandemic, he founded Aashwas, a social initiative that provided thousands of healthcare workers with essential protective equipment, leading him to present at the United Nations and receive the Diana Award for humanitarian efforts. His passion for using technology to create impact continued with M-Nutrition, a software solution to combat child malnutrition, and recognition as a Young AI Champion by Meta. Now a junior at Georgia Institute of Technology, Ayush continues building innovative solutions while embracing uncertainty and risk-taking as key drivers of progress in his journey.


    Starring:

    Michael Newborn (@michaelnewborn)

    John Ballenger (@john-ballenger53)


    Guest:

    Ayush Gharat

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ayush-gharat/


    Network/Produced by:

    Seltzer Kings (@seltzerkings) (seltzerkings.com)


    Theme Music by Saint Josh


    Listen Here:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/71Uji4fPLsnGEJjeAqomiJ?si=77e3d7bb636c422a

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john/id1707412739

    Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/a6b369bb-36a9-47ab-9f22-1bacfcff6166/the-second-act-with-michael-and-john

    iHeart: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-second-act-with-michae-123242148/


    Socials:

    Linktree: linktr.ee/secondactmovement

    Instagram: @secondactmovement

    LinkedIn: @secondactmovement

    Facebook: @secondactmovement

    YouTube: @secondactmovement

    Website: michaelandjohn.com

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    57 min

About The Second Act with Michael and John

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What actually drives someone to walk away from a conventional path and start over? In this podcast, Michael and John pull back the curtain with executives, founders, operators and veterans who have…

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