Jay talks to his identical twin brother Ralf about the experience of leaving Africa to settle in Europe, his experience with the difficulty of childbearing and the the challenges of dealing with different cultures and mental health. They then share the secrets and stories of identical twins!

Resources & Links:

MacSpeedys (Jay & Ralf's 'sort of' favorite courier)

Basketball player - Zion Williamson

Basketball player - Lonzo Ball

Nike Kobe line (Jay & Ralph's favourite shoes)

Adidas Dame 7 floral (shoe Jay bought)

Decathlon (Jay & Ralf's favorite store)

Rome, Italy

We Run Rome (Annual 10k run in Rome)

Panettone (traditional Italian Christmas bread)

Hamburg, Germany

Europe's Migrant crisis

Quotable: "Your relationship and marriage cannot be defined by having or not having a child....We let go [of the fact that we were struggling to conceive] and we immersed in each other." - Ralf 

"What's the point of having a child if your marriage relationship and the fundamentals of your home are broken?....invest in your relationship" - Ralf

Show notes: 

3:17 - Shoes & basketball

20.15 - Moving to Europe and the challenges of dealing with racism

58.13 - Ralf's story about his difficulties in child bearing

1:10:27 - his take on mental health

1:35:16 - The secret life of twins

The Pretender theme music is a beat composed by 2dayPresents and is titled "1000 Feet" 

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