In the NERD OUT section of the podcast, Sabira and Garr discuss the concept of industrial ecology and its connection to the circular economy. They explore the principles of industrial ecology and industrial symbiosis, which involve bridging biology with industry. They also highlight the importance of systems thinking and visualizing the interconnectedness of different industries and their impact on the circular economy. The conversation touches on the need for modeling and visually illustrating these concepts to make them more tangible. While countries like Italy, Sweden, Australia, and the Netherlands have seen success, the USA has struggled due to lack of trust between corporations and limited governmental support. The conversation also touched on the importance of non-profit and government-run programs.

In the discussion with Amanda Jordan, the group discusses the city's progress in implementing circular economy initiatives. Amanda highlights the unique factors that contribute to Phoenix's success, such as the city's ownership of waste facilities and the collaboration between different departments. Amanda also shares exciting projects, including the circular plastics micro factory and the Resource Innovation Campus. She emphasizes the importance of constituent support and education in driving circular economy solutions. Amanda envisions Phoenix becoming the most sustainable desert city and a leader in circular economy practices.

This week we explore the process of selling circular solutions and the challenges faced in the industry. We discuss in the frame of Canoa's platform and applications, which provide a resource for the architectural, engineering, and construction community to find sustainable products and secondhand furnishings. The discussion highlights the importance of meeting users where they're at and making the shopping and design experience familiar and easy to use. Trust is established through clear terms and policies for sellers and buyers of used and refurbished products. The conversation also touches on the collaboration and exchange that occurs within the circular economy.

Garr & Sabira continue to introduce new topics to one another, delving into the topic of ISO (International Organization for Standardization) and its importance in setting global standards. They explain the history and purpose of ISO, including its role in defining measurements and discuss the ongoing voting process for defining circular economy standards within the ISO.

As a part of the interview segment, Garr and Sabira are joined by Joanne Rodriguez, Founder & CEO of Mycocycle. The three discuss the use of mushrooms and mycelium to decarbonize industrial waste streams and create renewable bio-based materials. Joanne continues to explain the process of training mushrooms and mycelium to consume waste materials and develop new materials. Joanne shares the challenges and opportunities in the circular economy, including market development and investment.

In this conversation, Garr and Sabira discuss the concept of systems thinking and its application in the context of the built environment industry. They explore the various stakeholders involved in the industry and the potential for individual influence and collective action. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the interconnectedness of systems and the need for collaboration to drive positive change.

Sabira and Garr cover various topics related to waste management, circular economy, and entrepreneurship. It begins with a discussion on Starbucks' reusable cup and the concept of prototyping reusable products.

In this episode, Garr and Sabira discuss the rise of automotive remanufacturing and how companies like Stellantis and BMW are embracing circularity in their designs.

Beni is an aggregator that makes shopping secondhand easy and accessible. The team focuses on providing a seamless shopping experience and aims to make buying secondhand as convenient as buying new. They believe that resale should be a fundamental part of the market and are working towards a future where people view their purchases as assets.

Pulling no punches, Andy helps break down the world of office furniture remanufacturing. From procurement, design, sourcing and placing - it is never easy to create sustainable change but it involves working with supportive clients and dedicated team members to pull it off.

Sabira & Garr interview Elin Bergman - COO and Vice Chairman of Cradlenet.

On this episode, Sabira & Garr discuss the complexities of creating a circular business model while competing against linear, status quo operations.

Eric Law walks Sabira & Garr through the lumber reuse market, the surprisingly world of wood fasteners and the role of humans in a circular future.