Before true crime became a staple of podcasts and streaming services, the public was transfixed with the story of Frank Butler.Tales of murderous journeys had the public enthralled as his crimes brought him ever closer to the noose.

Author and podcaster Michael Adams joins the show with more.Get Michael's latest book at: https://affirmpress.com.au/publishing/hanging-ned-kelly/

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