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- Does Mass Incarceration Work?
We wrap up our discussion about bail bonds and the criminal justice system with attorney Ken Good. We focus start out on mass incarceration and then move to the importance of mindsets. Lookout for a wrap-up episode to go into more details about this conversation.
More about Ken Good at:https://pbtx.comhttps://thebailpost.comSupport The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedownMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted1More about Ken Good at:https://pbtx.comhttps://thebailpost.comSupport The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedownMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted100:00 - About The Shakedown00:40 - Do we need the criminal justice system as it is if it isn't working?01:23 - Does mass incarceration work?05:19 - The pendulum of mindsets09:14 - The importance of education20:48 - The differences between rehabilitation and prison26 min - Buy One, Get One Free...Murder?
We continue our discussion about bail bonds and the criminal justice system with attorney Ken Good. This week we get into personal stories of addiction; Malone explains why changes to the system are far more difficult to fight for than reforms; and Ken Good explains the how reglations led to Buy One, Get One Free...Murders...
More about Ken Good at:https://pbtx.comhttps://thebailpost.comSupport The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedownMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted100:00 - About The Shakedown00:40 - How does the 8th Ammendment impact jail bonds?01:13 - Trying cases during the COVID-19 pandemic02:07 - What crimes are closing down buildings?03:41 - On safe space to use drugs and addiction treatment05:37 - Our personal experiences with addiction and recovery15:39 - Why it's difficult to argue for better criminal justice solutions32 min - An Introduction to Bail Bonds
This week we start a series of conversations with Texas Attorney Ken Good about bail bonds and the criminal justice system. We ask if we need bonds and what parts of the criminal justice system we need or think work well . Today we introduce Ken and discuss what bail bonds are and some of the different varieties of bonds.
Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedownMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted100:00 - About The Shakedown00:40 - Who is Ken Good?03:26 - Ken Good on why we need cash bonds07:26 - What are jail bonds and what are the different types?10:30 - Does decriminilization reduce crime?15:40 - What does ken Good see as a perfect criminal justice system?17:21 - What are the penalties for PR bonds?26 min - How Do We Help? Mental Health & Criminal Justice Part 3
We look at ways to improve prisons and mental healthcare with Heather of the Hot Mess Espresso podcast. We discuss the tactics that individuals can do to help ensure everyone can get help instead of end up in jails and prisons.
988 Crisis Line: https://988lifeline.org/Heather and the Hot Mess Espresso podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hotmess.espressoThe Hot Mess Espresso Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@hotmessespressohttps://open.spotify.com/show/3ZtgmIbVyIHMa914qzni3Ahttps://tr.ee/QiSv9zWB8PSupport The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedownMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted100:00 - What is The Shakedown?00:40 - What can people do to improve the mental health system?03:16 - What is the importance of personal attitude and local candidates?09:21 - What if the people in power won't listen?16:48 - What to do when you experience a personal crisis20 min - Is there prison mental healthcare?
We continue our discussion of mental healthcare in prisons with Heather of the Hot Mess Espresso podcast. We discuss the availability of mental healthcare in prisons, each of our personal experiences, what it takes to get healthcare, and what healthcare actually looks like for an inmate.
Heather and the Hot Mess Espresso podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hotmess.espressoThe Hot Mess Espresso Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@hotmessespressohttps://open.spotify.com/show/3ZtgmIbVyIHMa914qzni3Ahttps://tr.ee/QiSv9zWB8PSupport The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedownMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted100:00 - Start00:40 - What was the access to mental healthcare in prison?02:01 - Mental Healthcare in Texas Prisons in the '90s05:04 - Who provides healthcare in prisons?07:09 - How do we affect change in mental healthcare?07:58 - The stigma associated with a borderline diagnosis11:23 - Practical ways to affect real world changes for mental healthcare14:52 - What are Civil Commitments?16:27 - Treating vs. Medicating in prison17:53 - Medications vs. Therapy21:30 - How Prison Psychiatrists Work27 min - Criminal Justice and Mental Health
Heather of the Hot Mess Espresso podcast joins The Shakedown to discuss Mental Health and Criminal Justice. We get into addiction, toxic masculinity, coping strategies, and even...Ben David?
Heather and the Hot Mess Espresso podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hotmess.espressoThe Hot Mess Espresso Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@hotmessespressohttps://open.spotify.com/show/3ZtgmIbVyIHMa914qzni3Ahttps://tr.ee/QiSv9zWB8PAbout the Colorado Center for Dependency, Addiction, and Rehabilitation:https://www.cedarcolorado.org/Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedownMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted100:00 - About The Shakedown01:02 - Meet Heather and the Hot Mess Espresso01:53 - Mental Health and Incarceration04:04 - Lightbulb's Story05:32 - Mental Health and Recidivism07:09 - Asking for help with mental health issues09:27 - The cost of living and mental health10:08 - Mental health "services" in prison13:07 - The advantages of addiction treatment17:48 - Mentally being prepared for release from prison20:04 - More about addiction28 min - Appeals and Coffee
Rainforest asks the question, "What does it REALLY mean to make an appeal?" We discuss what that means inside and outside of prison and what it means for those with and without money. We also get into the idea of culpability and how that ties into harsher sentencing for youth offenders. We finish the episode by asking Malone, "What does Starbucks taste like after 30 years in prison?"
Crime Statistics from 1960's-2001 from the US Bureau of Justice Statistics:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Crime_rates_per_capita_1970-2001,_GAO_Chart.pngSupport The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedownMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted1000:00 - Introduction to The Shakedown01:02 - An awkward opening...01:59 - How do appeals work?04:45 - Trying to legally kill someone...twice?06:50 - Our feelings on vengeance and criminal justice08:44 - How do appeals work...when you don't have money12:10 - The culpability of youth offenders16:32 - Increased sentencing for juveniles20:08 - What you get released from prison with21:39 - What it was like for Malone getting released after 30 years26 min - Guide to Cellmates Pt. II: The House Mouse, Solitary, & Cellie Politics
Dave and Rainforest continue to discuss cellies (cellmates). In this episode, "house mice", what can get you a solitary cell and what that looks like, suicide watch, the politics required for having a cellie, and the type of people who take the job as prison officer.
Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedownMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted100:00 - The Shakedown is Back!00:48 - Our Patreon Page!01:13 - About The Shakedown02:15 - More bad cellies!03:24 - The Importance of Privacy05:18 - House Mouses (Cellies who never leave)09:26 - How to deal with cellmates10:40 - Getting Punished Because of Your Cellie11:21 - The dangers of politics in prison13:17 - What will get you G5'ed or sent to solitary?16:53 - What is the real danger of solitary confinement?18:40 - What suicide watch looks like in prison22:14 - Philemon's Story25:20 - What it's like getting gassed27:02 - What it takes to get gassed27:41 - Who becomes a prison officer?29 min - Prison Phones and the Real Company Making Money Off of Inmates
When people ask who makes money off prisons, our number one answers goes to the people running the phone system. On this episode, we explain how the prison phones operate, who runs them, and who ends up paying the tab (it might be you!).
About Securus:https://securustech.online/The Texas Tribune article about prison phones:https://www.texastribune.org/2011/01/12/prison-phones-generate-less-money-than-hoped/#:~:text=Credit%3A%20Todd%20Wiseman-,Texas%20prisoners%20have%20made%20and%20received%20more%20than%204.7%20million,phone%20and%20e%2Dmail%20access.The positive impacts of contact from loved ones while people are incarcerated:https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2021/12/21/family_contact/#:~:text=Consistent%20phone%20calls%20to%20family%20improve%20relationships&text=As%20with%20visitation%2C%20family%20phone,odds%20of%20returning%20to%20prison.More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted100:00 - Start00:12 - Introductions00:34 - Today's topic: The Phones in Prisons00:58 - Why talk about prison phones05:00 - Dave's history of prison phones06:22 - The disadvantages of phones in prisons07:28 - How many facilities have Securus11:28 - Where do inmate cell phones come from?12:17 - Getting phones n medium custody14:40 - Who owns Securus?15:19 - Securus' value and the year it skyrocketed16:22 - Guess who owns JPay (and profits off all inmate's communication from loved ones in most states)17:05 - Who makes money off of prisons?18:16 - The argument for and against getting rid of physical mail in prisons21:20 - Prison contraband even during COVID22:09 - How charging for phone calls and searching mail increasing recidivism25:36 - Why prison phone calls should be free30 min - The Shakedown's Guide to Cellmates
Dave and Rainforest discuss the ins and outs (literally) of cellies (cellmates). In this episode, we discuss misconceptions we have heard and topics that we don't hear discussed outside prisons.
Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedownMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbullRyan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeMalone on IG: @they_call_me_maloneDave on IG: @sociallydistorted100:00 - We're back!00:44 - Our Patreon Page!01:14 - About The Shakedown02:15 - Let's talk about cellies!03:41 - Is "finding a cellie" like "dating"?04:16 - Are cellies like college dormmates?05:08 - What is life with a cellmate like?06:29 - Ins and Outs and Cellies08:34 - What are Ins and Outs in prison?10:26 - Fights between cellies12:10 - Dogs, Routines, and how the state creates chaos15:30 - "Common courtesy" in prison?16:18 - How to use a bathroom in prison17:49 - Waste in prison (other than humans)18:50 - What's a REAL BAD cellie?20:48 - Getting STUCK in the cell23 min
About The Shakedown
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Each episode of The Shakedown discusses a question about criminal justice. Hosts and guests share their stories and personal experiences to give audiences a deeper understanding of what justice means…
and what consequences it can have.