Guest Dr. Rois Ni Thuama, Head of Cyber Governance for Red Sift, stops by to talk with Dave about the changing landscape when it comes to governance and how organizations are approaching cyber, Ben discusses the latest on the Pegasus spyware story, Dave ponders the underlying policy issues in the recent controversy at Spotify.

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