If you’re thinking about a pivot, a new venture, or a move into unfamiliar territory, this conversation will give you a smarter way to think about starting from scratch.

In this episode, Jason Feifer talks with Michael Louis, cofounder and CEO of the AI company Cerebrium, about what it takes to win in spaces you’ve never worked in before. Michael has built companies across blockchain, e-commerce, and AI, and he explains how he approaches every new market: by invalidating ideas fast, solving the next problem instead of obsessing over the long-term plan, building highly autonomous teams, and using relationships to accelerate learning and growth.