The Skillest Podcast

At 13, Henni, became the youngest amateur ever to tee it up on the Ladies European Tour. Seven years as a pro, two Women’s Opens and a career-ending back injury later, she swapped the fairway for the Sky Sports sofa, and then landed one of golf’s most unlikely gigs: four years as Tiger Woods’ on-screen partner at GOLFTV.

Clappy and I sit down with Henni to unpack the whole ride:

• Playing a practice round with a pre-superstar Inbee Park, and the banana incident that nearly ended her first tour week
• How a slipped disc, a wheelchair and two years of rehab led her into broadcasting
• What it’s really like working with Tiger, from breaking down every shot on My Game to his artistry under pressure
• The “just make it to the next meal” mindset Tiger learned from his dad
• What separates the best players in the world from everyone else (hint: work hard on the things you find hard)
• Her new chapter in coaching, scoring schools and building community on Skillest

And if you’re a coach scared of hitting record on socials? Henni’s got some tough-love advice: if you say you want it but don’t act on it, you don’t really want it.

🎧 Find Henni on Skillest: skillest.com

Louis Savill is one of the fastest-rising short game coaches in the world, and a Skillest power user in every sense. He runs his in-person lessons, bookings, subscriptions and a booming online business all through the platform.

Baden and Clappy sit down with Louis to unpack how he thinks about the short game. Hint: there’s no one right way to do it.

We get into:

• Why “just use the bounce” has been leaned on for way too long
• Arc height vs low point: the two concepts that fix most bad contact
• Steep doesn’t mean deep — Louis’s hula hoop explanation of angle of attack
• Yips vs fear: focal dystonia, the fridge that electrocutes you, and why 99% of “yippers” just have a technique problem
• How to practise short game properly: practise for the exam (spoiler: 60% of your shots are from the rough)
• Why the 60° isn’t a break-glass-in-emergency club
• Bounce, grind, and getting fit by Aaron Dill alongside tour players
• His friendship with Short Game Chef Parker McLachlin
• How he coaches online: 15-minute Zoom consults, skeleton analysis, and getting students to film the shots they hate on the course

Plus: Clappy cracks 100K on Instagram. From 4K to 100K by showing up every day.

If you’ve ever bladed one across the green, this one’s for you. 🏌️

For 20 years, Andy Little’s life ran on repeat. Same junior groups, same schools, same capped income. Then, on a balcony in Jamaica for his 40th, he watched a Skillest coach teaching golf from Bali and decided to change everything.

Today Andy is fully online, done with lessons by 9am, playing his best golf in a dozen years, and about to split his year between the UK and his new place in Dubai. Baden and Clappy dig into how he got there: nine months of getting nowhere, the pivot that worked, why coaching five-year-olds made him brilliant with 20-handicappers, and his “less is more” system for helping golfers actually improve.

If you’re a coach who feels stuck, this one’s for you.

00:00 – Intro
 01:45 – Born into golf
 03:30 – Turning pro and inheriting the juniors
 05:00 – 20 years of Groundhog Day
 06:45 – The Jamaica balcony moment
 08:15 – Turning insecurity into a pricing edge
 09:00 – What five-year-olds taught him about coaching
 11:15 – Inside an online lesson
 12:45 – Building retention through real relationships
 16:15 – Early traction
 18:15 – Done by 9am
 20:45 – Going full-time online and the Dubai move
 24:15 – Less is more
 26:15 – Honesty in free reviews
 28:00 – Educating in-person golfers
 31:15 – What’s next
 33:45 – Advice for new coaches
 37:15 – Wrap-up

Five years ago Tyler Coonts was working in advertising at Google, sneaking into empty conference rooms to give free swing breakdowns on the Hudl app. Then George Gankas told him mid-lesson: "You should be teaching."

Now he's one of the most in-demand coaches on Skillest. He does six hours of Zoom lessons a day, and his analysis queue hasn't been empty in three years. This year he also picked up almost 70,000 Instagram followers off a single drill.

Baden and Clappy talk to Tyler about:

• Learning from Randy Smith (Scheffler's coach) at 12, drawing on swings with dry-erase markers alongside Wayne DeFrancesco, and growing up at the Harmon School in the Tiger era
• What George Gankas really teaches, and what the internet gets wrong about him
• Why Tyler was trained to start the downswing with his arms, and how George flipped that around
• How he coaches online: lessons built like workout videos, lines drawn on everything, and students taught to run their own swing
• Getting grilled on root cause by his mentor Jeff Smith: "Start at impact. Why? Why? Why?"
• How the loop drill went viral, why 99 detailed swing breakdowns tanked his growth, and the trial-reel and repost tricks that worked
• Handling online criticism, and why before-and-afters settle every argument

If you've ever wondered whether you could make it as an online coach, this is the episode for you.

Chapters (rough timestamps, check against the final edit)
00:00 Intro & Tyler's background
04:45 Finding George Gankas
06:55 What George actually teaches
08:45 Rewiring the downswing
13:15 Tyler's digital coaching philosophy
23:15 Root cause analysis & mentorship with Jeff Smith
25:45 Going viral: the loop drill
34:15 Handling online criticism
40:00 Advice for coaches & wrap-up

What happens when a coach builds such a strong brand that Hollywood calls?

This week Baden and Clappy sit down with Nathan Leonhardt. He founded Tour Development Academy in Vancouver, won PGA BC Teacher of the Year, was one of Skillest's original top coaches, and is now the full-time golf consultant on Apple TV's Stick, starring Owen Wilson.

A back injury ended Nathan's playing career on the Canadian Tour and in Asia, so he built his teaching around the body. He was one of the first coaches to bring TPI screening to Skillest. Then he walked away from a thriving online business to open an academy and start a family. Now he's back online.

In this episode:

• The out-of-the-blue phone call that asked him to become a golf consultant on an Apple TV show, with an answer due by the end of the day
• How he priced a role that had never existed before
• Building a believable "Tiger early-2000s" swing for an actor who'd never played golf, and why shanks didn't matter
• The left-handed swing double who turned out to be right-handed
• Why your body should shape your swing, and how TPI changes the way you coach
• What thousands of online lessons taught him about communication and the lesson "experience"
• The "300-pound pencil" (credit to Cam McCormick) and why the off-season is the best time to change your swing
• His advice for coaches starting on Skillest: free lessons, reviews, and start small

Stick Season 2 drops November 4 on Apple TV.

Find Nathan:

• CoachToCEO mentorship: coach2ceo.com
• Instagram: @tda_golf
• Online lessons: Nathan on Skillest

Chapters

• 00:00 Intro
• 02:00 Nathan's playing career and how he started teaching
• 06:30 TPI and body-based coaching
• 09:50 Building Tour Development Academy
• 12:40 Staying ahead of the curve
• 14:10 CoachToCEO
• 21:10 The Hollywood call
• 31:10 On set with Owen Wilson
• 35:30 Developing Santi's golf swing
• 38:40 The 300-pound pencil and off-season training
• 42:00 Advice for coaches starting out
• 44:40 Wrap up

Steve Astle joins Baden and Clappy for an unscripted, end-of-season riff on where golf coaching is headed. Steve is one of the most influential figures in the industry, and his influence is especially pronounced in how coaches build and scale their businesses online, not just his track record coaching in person. He's the founder of Golf Coaching Business, has been working with Skillest for nine to ten years, and has spent well over a decade helping coaches turn scattered one-off lessons into structured, recurring revenue. Steve traces his own journey from a public-course teaching pro filming students on VHS to becoming what he calls "a lighthouse in the industry" during COVID, when he built a 1,000-coach Facebook community almost overnight and started running weekly business-development calls for coaches. That period is also where he met and mentored Clappy, helping him move off charging £30 a lesson and into a subscription-based coaching model.

The conversation covers why hybrid (in-person plus online) coaching is now the norm, why subscription-based programs beat one-off lesson packs (Steve calls this his single biggest influence on the industry, shifting coaches from "six-for-five" pricing to committed programs), and why personal brand and social presence have become non-negotiable for growing a coaching business. A major thread is AI: how tools like Claude and MCP integrations with Skillest are letting coaches automate lesson prep, pull player stats and Arccos data, and surface previously hidden information, while all three agree AI should add value to a coach's business rather than replace the human relationship at its core. Steve closes with his "5 Rs" framework for a durable coaching business (recruit, results, relationships, retention, reflection) and argues that despite every technology shift, people still buy from people.

Ryan Hager, Director of Instruction at Plainfield Country Club in New Jersey, joins the show to talk about his path into coaching, his time training under Jim McLean, and what it's really like teaching at one of the Northeast's elite private clubs. Ryan shares the story of his mentor Wes Mensing, whose sudden death shaped his decision to go into instruction, and breaks down what makes McLean's six-month certification program so demanding: rigorous critical-thinking training, legendary Monday morning meetings, and a curriculum built to produce coaches who can actually teach, not just demonstrate.

The conversation moves through Ryan's own coaching philosophy (built from a "toolbox" of 40+ influences rather than one rigid system), what separates coaching from teaching, and why he believes a swing doesn't need to look perfect as long as it's repeatable and pain-free. He also opens up about building a 100K-follower Instagram audience without chasing clickbait, why simplicity beats technical complexity in content that actually helps people, and how he balances that with a full teaching schedule at a private club. Along the way: golf in the Northeast vs. the rest of the world, why he'd rather play Scotland than anywhere in the US, and the seasonal rhythm of a coaching year that runs from a spring/summer sprint into a well-earned winter reset.

Alex Buckner didn't fall in love with coaching, he fell in love with winning. In this episode, the tour coach behind Marco Penge's breakout three win 2025 season opens up about reverse engineering an entire career: from a failed playing career and three jobs just to fund tournament entries, to becoming an "OG" Skillest power user documenting thousands of in person lessons, to reinventing himself again and again, short game specialist, long game coach, and now full service performance manager for elite players.

Alex breaks down exactly how he turned Marco Penge from a player who "twatted" every driver into the tour's most accurate off the tee, why he coaches almost exclusively on the golf course instead of the range, and the real story behind Marco's equipment switch to Mizuno on the PGA Tour (including the sole design mistake nobody talks about). He also tackles the steep vs shallow short game debate head on, explains why "free swing analysis" is a waste of everyone's time, and shares the decision making framework he's used since his early 20s to bet on himself, going a full year on the DP World Tour before he even knew if he'd get paid.

If you're a coach, an aspiring tour player, or just someone trying to figure out how much intention it takes to build the career you actually want, this one's packed with it.

Jerome Theunis was a golf pro himself — a Challenge Tour player who represented Belgium in the World Cup — before he became one of the most sought-after (and quietly under-the-radar) coaches in the game. It started with his roommate on tour, a young Nico Colsaerts, who got sick of finding golf technique books in the bathroom and Sharpie diagrams on the hotel TV. "I think you're pure psycho," Nico told him. A few years later Colsaerts was in the Ryder Cup, and Jerome had found his calling.

Since then he's worked behind the scenes with players like Adrian Meronk and Thomas Detry. In this episode, Jerome unpacks the parts of coaching nobody puts in a swing manual: why he flies across the world to consult other coaches on his own players — and why Sean Foley called that "the biggest proof of trust" a coach can give; the four things that actually happen when you bring in outside expertise, and why it almost never backfires; the concept of "novelty salience," and the parking-lot debrief with a PGA Tour player that ran 50 minutes over because reframing one piece of technical data changed everything; why touching a tour player's technique "de-skills" them — and how Tiger Woods rebuilt his swing three times without ever disappearing from leaderboards; the grip Jerome refused to fix on a world number 11, because some flaws are load-bearing; Randy Smith's audacious fix for a player who "swings it beautiful" but couldn't close — shaping shots on Sunday, from a 50-yard slice down to dead straight; and why Jerome believes storytelling and emotional framing — not swing data — are the one thing AI won't be coaching any time soon.

Equal parts skill-acquisition deep dive and behind-the-curtain look at how tour-level trust actually gets built, this is a conversation for anyone who coaches, teaches, or just wants to understand why the best in the world can shoot 65 on a course that's "long, tight, and high rough" and make it look easy.

What actually separates the coaches building thriving online businesses from everyone else?

In this episode of the Skillest Pod, Baden Schaff sits down with Mark Govier and Alex Clapp to unpack what great modern coaching really looks like — and why simply being a great instructor is no longer enough.

They dig into how Mark and Alex structure long-term player development, create clear roadmaps for their students, use content to extend their coaching beyond the lesson, and build the kind of high-touch relationships that keep players engaged for years.

But the conversation goes much deeper into growth.

How do you go from 1,000 followers to your first 15 subscribers? What should you actually post? How do you turn content into conversations? Why can a game evaluation be more powerful than a “free lesson”? And why do coaches need to be willing to do the unscalable work at the beginning?

Mark shares why consistency matters more than going viral — including the years he spent creating content when almost nobody was watching. Alex breaks down exactly how he uses social media, DMs and game evaluations to bring golfers into his world. And Baden explains why starting just a handful of genuine conversations every week can completely change a coach’s business.

The big takeaway?

You’re not selling online lessons. You’re building relationships.

And the coaches who understand that are building something far bigger than a lesson diary — they’re building an academy in the cloud.