What are the current American leaders like? Princeton historian Julian Zelizer tells Robyn Curnow his perceptions of Trump, Biden, Vance, Harris and other leaders he's interviewed.

Three words to describe America right now? Fractured, divided and fragile.

Time travel? Oval Office, 1960's during Lyndon Johnson Presidency

Music? Grateful Dead

Ideal dinner guests? Ella Backer, Martin Luther King, FDR, Jerry Garcia.

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Chapters

00:00 Exploring American Identity