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I’ve been thinking a lot lately about my evolution as a human being, generally, but more specifically as a gay man – where I come from, how it influenced the trajectory of my life, how I fit into the community, how I’ve changed, and also how the world has changed (for good and bad) – and what does that mean for my future as a gay man, as a queer person.

And, I thought it would be interesting to talk to some friends of mine who might be in the same boat –gay men in our 40s. And, I thought it might be even MORE interesting to record that conversation and share it with you all – because I doubt that we’re alone in our reflection and our thoughts. So, today, I’m talking to Soda Canter – who you might remember from an earlier episode of Deep Dive, when we talked about his artistry and his music. And, I’m also talking to Justin Hentges, a new guest of Deep Dive, and a longtime friend of mine. This conversation is very heavy at times, and very silly at times. This is a wide-ranging conversation. We talk about Mathew Sheppard, and the influence his torture and death had on our young queer lives, our coming out stories, racism, misogyny, and transphobia in the queer community, where some of our greatest support from the queer community has come from, who our first crushes were, the utility of caftans, and whatever happened to Amy Grant?
 
Mentioned:
Nellie’s Sport Bar
JRs Bar
Tell Me Lies
After the Ecstasy, the Laundry - Jack Kornfield
The Expanse
Martina McBride
Reba McEntire
Matchbox Twenty
Faith Hill
Bobbie Gentry
Amy Grant

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