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the spacemakers

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  • episode 1.10 : rethinking “unity” with Nick Zola | part 1, the interview

    Part 1 of our conversation with Nick Zola, Pepperdine professor of religion and Vice President of Common Grounds Unity. He and Isabel discuss relationships between Christians in different churches and denominations, and touch on the “one true church” mentality. 

    RESOURCES: 

    More on Common Grounds:

    Website (https://www.commongroundsunity.org) 

    Podcast (https://open.spotify.com/show/0nQaFChZOysuuIP8UVwn7i?si=IOU49ZveR3KCdGlnbbMJug&dl_branch=1) 

    Facebook Group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/249001165687212) 

    Our recommended books list (https://www.goodreads.com/group/invite/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680?invite_token=YWQyYWE2YzUtODU4OS00Yjg0LTkwYzctZGU0ZDJmMjE3NWMy&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copypastegroup ) 

    Book referenced by Isabel: Searching for Sunday by Rachel Held Evans (https://www.amazon.com/Searching-Sunday-Loving-Leaving-Finding/dp/0718022122/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1RNV0UJI7EY9C&dchild=1&keywords=searching+for+sunday&qid=1632265484&sprefix=searching+for%2Caps%2C195&sr=8-1 )

    1 hr 4 min
  • episode 1.9 : demystifying deconstruction with Douglas Jacoby | part 2, the panel

    Part 2 of the second episode of our “Deconstruction Series,” featuring Douglas Jacoby. Part 2 is an interview between the Spacemakers Alex and Douglas, discussing the term and concept of deconstruction, as well as what it means to question. 


    RESOURCES:

    More on Douglas Jacoby:

    Website (https://www.douglasjacoby.com)

    Submit a question (https://www.douglasjacoby.com/category/q-and-a/)

    Books (https://www.douglasjacoby.com/books/)


    The "Inside Out" Mental Health Conference (https://www.insideoutccc.com)


    Podcasts:

    The BEMA Podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bema-podcast/id1148115183)

    The Deconstructionists (https://open.spotify.com/show/6Ds1MOzs0z4o4prkkMQ6on?si=TEQ-FNxxSO-7yR4wRljhlw&dl_branch=1)

    Reclaiming My Theology (https://open.spotify.com/show/5j3HkxtshOHt5wKxysTuAY?si=NMI5jzNHTk6kvocrLoU4Sw&dl_branch=1)

    The Bible Project (https://open.spotify.com/show/6f2oD3RtQY1rOeyfF2OeOa?si=agVqslRHSEiYoQLO5YYMUw&dl_branch=1)

    The Bible for Normal People with Pete Enns (https://open.spotify.com/show/2991KOQDSOZK59jopj5jjv?si=LBAz_76qTE2zzBwd9l8FxQ&dl_branch=1)

    The Protagonistas (https://open.spotify.com/show/68uGQEy5dWrNqlXjo6tdoO?si=KWH8gWd0QCmyMIkJ5LPU5Q&dl_branch=1)

    The Messy Middle Podcast (https://open.spotify.com/show/0RMi7iJFtx1xJCWn5AnntU?si=MpyAJrvCStuJ--QS9cCMDg&dl_branch=1)


    Our recommended books list (https://www.goodreads.com/group/invite/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680?invite_token=YWQyYWE2YzUtODU4OS00Yjg0LTkwYzctZGU0ZDJmMjE3NWMy&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copypastegroup )

    48 min
  • episode 1.9 : demystifying deconstruction with Douglas Jacoby | part 1, the interview

    The second episode of our “Deconstruction Series,” featuring Douglas Jacoby. Part 1 is an interview between Spacemaker Alex and Douglas, discussing the term and concept of deconstruction, as well as what it means to question. Make sure to check out part 2, the panel!


    RESOURCES:

    More on Douglas Jacoby:

    Website (https://www.douglasjacoby.com)

    Submit a question (https://www.douglasjacoby.com/category/q-and-a/)

    Books (https://www.douglasjacoby.com/books/)


    The "Inside Out" Mental Health Conference (https://www.insideoutccc.com)


    Podcasts:

    The BEMA Podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bema-podcast/id1148115183)

    The Deconstructionists (https://open.spotify.com/show/6Ds1MOzs0z4o4prkkMQ6on?si=TEQ-FNxxSO-7yR4wRljhlw&dl_branch=1)

    Reclaiming My Theology (https://open.spotify.com/show/5j3HkxtshOHt5wKxysTuAY?si=NMI5jzNHTk6kvocrLoU4Sw&dl_branch=1)

    The Bible Project (https://open.spotify.com/show/6f2oD3RtQY1rOeyfF2OeOa?si=agVqslRHSEiYoQLO5YYMUw&dl_branch=1)

    The Bible for Normal People with Pete Enns (https://open.spotify.com/show/2991KOQDSOZK59jopj5jjv?si=LBAz_76qTE2zzBwd9l8FxQ&dl_branch=1)

    The Protagonistas (https://open.spotify.com/show/68uGQEy5dWrNqlXjo6tdoO?si=KWH8gWd0QCmyMIkJ5LPU5Q&dl_branch=1)

    The Messy Middle Podcast (https://open.spotify.com/show/0RMi7iJFtx1xJCWn5AnntU?si=MpyAJrvCStuJ--QS9cCMDg&dl_branch=1)


    Our recommended books list (https://www.goodreads.com/group/invite/1170983-spacemakers-book-list-x1f680?invite_token=YWQyYWE2YzUtODU4OS00Yjg0LTkwYzctZGU0ZDJmMjE3NWMy&utm_medium=email&utm_source=copypastegroup )

    44 min
  • episode 1.8 : introduction to deconstruction

    An intro to our “Deconstruction” Series. The Spacemakers explain what it is to us, how churches should react to it, and how to do it in a healthy way. 

    RESOURCES: *Reminder that you can read/listen to things and disagree! So don’t be surprised if you read something you don’t agree with or haven’t thought of before! 

    Resources mentioned: The Bema Podcast | Episode 231 “Introducing the Team- Deconstruction w/ Reed Dent” (mentioned by Isabel) https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bema-podcast/id1148115183?i=1000531061758 

    The Bema Podcast | Episode 233 “Striking the Rock w/ Josh Bossé” (mentioned by Rachel)  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/233-introducing-the-team-striking-the-rock-w-josh-boss%C3%A9/id1236337189?i=1000532467034 

    Books/Authors:

    Rachel Held Evans 

    Rob Bell 

    Richard Rohr 

    Walter Brueggeman 

    CS Lewis 

    Tim Mackie (the Bible Project)

     “Out of Sorts” by Sarah Bessey 

    “After Doubt” by AJ Swoboda 

    “Pure” by Linda Kay Klein 

    Podcasts: 

    The BEMA Podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bema-podcast/id1148115183) 

    The Deconstructionists (https://open.spotify.com/show/6Ds1MOzs0z4o4prkkMQ6on?si=TEQ-FNxxSO-7yR4wRljhlw&dl_branch=1) 

    Reclaiming My Theology (https://open.spotify.com/show/5j3HkxtshOHt5wKxysTuAY?si=NMI5jzNHTk6kvocrLoU4Sw&dl_branch=1) 

    The Bible Project (https://open.spotify.com/show/6f2oD3RtQY1rOeyfF2OeOa?si=agVqslRHSEiYoQLO5YYMUw&dl_branch=1) 

    The Bible for Normal People with Pete Enns (https://open.spotify.com/show/2991KOQDSOZK59jopj5jjv?si=LBAz_76qTE2zzBwd9l8FxQ&dl_branch=1) 

    The Protagonistas (https://open.spotify.com/show/68uGQEy5dWrNqlXjo6tdoO?si=KWH8gWd0QCmyMIkJ5LPU5Q&dl_branch=1) 

    The Messy Middle Podcast (https://open.spotify.com/show/0RMi7iJFtx1xJCWn5AnntU?si=MpyAJrvCStuJ--QS9cCMDg&dl_branch=1)

    58 min
  • episode 1.7 : the “kingdom kid” experience & more | with J. Brian Craig

    Yay for the third and last part of the “Kingdom Kid” experience series!🚀Join us for an interview featuring none other than one of the OG “Kingdom Kids” J. Brian Craig 🔥 The writer of songs like “Praises Heard Around the World,” “Be With Me Lord,” and more, JBC talked with us about his experience growing up in church, raising kids in church, lots about the generational gap, and of course, MUSIC! 

    RESOURCES: 

    GKDI Worship “Be With Me Lord” Cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylTaRLw-YJs 

    Ties To the Light Music https://linktr.ee/tttl

    58 min
  • episode 1.6 : the "kingdom kid" experience | the parents

    We invited a couple of our parents, Ben and Marie Arcellana (parents of Isabel) and Cindi Whitcomb (mom of Meigan) on the podcast for a conversation with their kids about the “Kingdom Kid” experience as well as how to approach conversations in the home about faith deconstruction, church culture, and more. Ben and Marie have 11 years of international ministry experience, and Cindi works as the HR Manager for the Los Angeles International Church of Christ and HOPE worldwide Ltd. 

    RESOURCES MENTIONED: Spacemakers Episode 1 “The Generation Gap with Gordon Ferguson” Part 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5o9pA7bmsEwINnKoxS9QNK?si=f3e3f0956b1a4f98 Part 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4KRa7h0KShnTMUehhhLX8s?si=c6fa293e615a4af9 

    Wound of My People: https://www.facebook.com/woundofmypeople/ 

    lifeline.la: https://www.instagram.com/lifeline.la/ 

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    FIND US: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spacemakers.podcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/spacemakerspodcast Email: [email protected]

    1 hr 17 min
  • episode 1.5 : the "kingdom kid" experience | part 1
    Kicking off our Kingdom Kid Experience series, we invited a few of our friends who, generally, had a really good experience growing up in our group of churches to have a conversation about our varied experiences. We have Mari Sawamura (Boston), Mark Llorens (North Virginia), Nick Ragan (Dallas/Denver) and Alisa Krater (Germany). This first part is a discussion about what we all loved about our childhoods in church, as well as starting to dive in to what we didn’t love. 
    Listen to Part 2 to hear the Spacemakers describe their experiences, diving deeper into what makes being a “Kingdom Kid” easy or hard.
    51 min
  • episode 1.4 : rethinking diversity
    A conversation among the Spacemakers discussing the importance of taking racial diversity further into true inclusion and what that looks like. Is there a difference between diversity and inclusion? 
    Discussion questions:
        ⁃    Does my immediate circle look and think just like me? 
        ⁃    Who do the people I respect and follow look like? 
        ⁃    Does my church or community reflect the demographics of my area in race, economic status, or age? Why or why not?
        ⁃    Is there a demographic that I actively avoid? Why?
        ⁃    Do different types of people feel comfortable talking to me? Why or why not?
    Resources:
    Books:
    “Stamped from the Beginning” by Ibram X Kendi
    “Crossing the Line: Race, Culture and Kingdom” by Michael Burns
    Podcasts:
    The Messy Middle Podcast (https://open.spotify.com/show/0RMi7iJFtx1xJCWn5AnntU?si=MpyAJrvCStuJ--QS9cCMDg&dl_branch=1)
    All Things to All People Podcast (https://open.spotify.com/show/0h2lIQXvbeQjKF5dkTGVRi?si=HkwRjA0qQ86JELDldZsumA&dl_branch=1)
    Blog:
    Black Tax and White Benefits by Gordon Ferguson (http://blacktaxandwhitebenefits.com)
    1 hr 6 min
  • episode 1.3 : let’s talk about talking

    Before we release any other topical episodes, the Spacemakers wanted to have a talk with our listeners about what kind of foundation we want our podcast to have moving forward. We are going to be highlighting a lot of different experiences, so we want to talk about listening, empathy and validation before we can even move on to talk about the many topics we have coming up. 

    Resources mentioned: Ted Talk by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie: "The Danger of a Single Story" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9Ihs241zeg&t=573s Find us on Instagram @spacemakers.podcast, or email us at [email protected]

    34 min

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