A fun, unedited conversation with Eugene Kim, co-leader of November project and running enthusiast, Jennifer Ouellette. This episode explores my longtime fascination with the running community. I have had many conversations with people who truly love running. Like, LOVE it. One of the more intriguing conversations I had was with Eugene and Jenn. One a marathon runner and the other an "occasional ultra-marathoner." I invited them on the show to explore this love of theirs and to put some language behind what truly motivates them to run for miles and miles and miles. Interestingly enough, in the weeks since recording this episode, Nike and Headspace teamed up and created an app to inspire people to "run mindfully."