On this episode of the podcast, Ben and Ryan chat with Martial Hebert, dean of the School of Computer Science at Ryan’s alma mater, Carnegie Mellon University. They talk about the changing landscape of computer science education, Martial’s almost 40 years of research in computer vision and robotics, and the importance of crossing disciplines in computer science.

On this sponsored episode of the podcast, Ben and Ryan talk with Abhai Bhargava, Native Software Engineering and Experience Design Capability Centre Manager at Shell. They discuss how Abhai and his team use software in their business, dive into the software behind the world’s second-largest electric vehicle charging network, and speculate on what the most energy-efficient programming language might be.

Chef cofounder Adam Jacob joins the home team to discuss the problems with the current state of cloud infrastructure, what engineers need but aren’t getting, and why he’s focused on creating a new and improved approach to infrastructure automation.

Syed Hamid, founder and CEO of no-code test automation platform Sofy, joins Ben and Ryan to talk about scriptless automation, why his platform targets mobile app developers, and what he learned in nearly two decades at Microsoft.

Itamar Friedman, CEO and cofounder of CodiumAI, and Kyle Mitofsky, a Senior Software Engineer on Stack Overflow’s public platform, join the home team for a conversation about code integrity and how AI tools are changing the way developers work.

On today’s episode, we chat with Marcos Grappeggia, the product manager for Duet, an AI-powered assistant that can help you craft code by suggesting snippets—even full functions—as you write. Grappeggia explains why he thinks tools like this will augment, but not replace, the human developers at work today.

Jim Highsmith, an original signatory on the Agile Manifesto, tells Ben and Ryan about what software development looked like at the time of the Apollo program, the evolution of user interface, and the meeting where “17 adventurous techies changed the world.” Plus: How a savvy shoe choice helped introduce Agile to Nike.

Today is a special episode recorded at Apple’s campus in Cupertino as part of this year’s WWDC. We got the chance to sit down with the folks who help to build Apple’s developer tools and discuss their newest releases, plus a hint of how they hope developers will create apps for their new headset and the world of spatial computing.

Ben and Ryan talk with Jonathan Frankle and Abhinav Venigalla of MosaicML, a startup trying to make artificial intelligence efficient and accessible for everyone by lowering the cost, time, and complexity it takes to train a powerful AI model.

Cameron Wolfe, Director of AI at Rebuy and deep learning researcher, joins Ben for a conversation about generative AI, autonomous agents, and balancing a PhD program with a tech career.