Episode 10 – The state of trade: with Stephen Jacobi. in this episode, host Peter Foyston is joined by one of New Zealand’s top trade experts – Stephen Jacobi. The pair discuss the state of trade across Australasia, the push and pull factors contributing to the success of some nations globally, and how government and policy are crucial to this success – all within the context of the global pandemic. Throughout the episode Peter asks Stephen some tough questions regarding trade globally and what we can learn from countries like China and the United States.