This week Katie and Dave recap Katie's low-key birthday celebration, including her fun trip to the mall, an amazing Italian meal, and their 90's thriller movie marathon. They also discuss the nuances of making and keeping plans, and delve into the topic of telephobia.

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opening music: Little Jimmy Dickens - Take an Old Cold Tater and Wait

closing music: Love Tractor - Buy Me a Million Dollars