Jackie Mackay is a clinical counselor, Social worker, and author of the children's book "Butterflies in my Belly". Jackie is also the mother of Ben Mackay, a good friend on mine and many others who passed away from cancer in 2015. Its always great to talk to Jackie, it seems we never have trouble getting into long conversations about grief and life. Connecting with Jackie and her family has helped me greatly in my journey. Hope you enjoy!