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The Surest Seat: Helping Your Kids Grow, Find Belonging, and Trust Jesus, Conversations with Heather Holleman
Episode 11: The Disappearing Seat: When Comparison Robs our Kids of their Confidence with Heather Holleman
What do we do when someone else seems to have the friendship, attention, opportunities, or life we wish belonged to us?
In this episode of The Sublime Soiree Podcast, we welcome back our friend and mentor, author and professor Heather Holleman, to talk about The Disappearing Seat, the second book in her Elita Brown Series.
Set during a cold Pennsylvania winter, the story follows Elita through what Heather calls a "winter of the soul." When a new girl receives attention and seems to excel in places Elita once felt secure, jealousy convinces Elita that her own seat is disappearing. Heather explains how remembering that we are seated with Christ helps us trust that another person's blessings do not diminish what God has for us.
Heather also shares the powerful practice of savoring: intentionally noticing and enjoying God's good gifts. Together, we discuss gratitude, bringing specific needs honestly to God, recording His faithfulness, and helping children develop prayer-journaling rhythms that can quiet anxiety, nurture hope, and train their minds to recognize His care.
Our conversation also explores the pressure young people face to perform a picture-perfect life online. We consider how social media can deepen comparison and anxiety, why our circle of interest should not eclipse our circle of influence, and how adults can help young people ground their identities in truth.
Through it all, The Disappearing Seat reminds us that even when life feels empty, unseen, or unfair, winter does not last forever. God is present, spring is coming, and we can become people who invite, refresh, and make room for others.
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If this episode encouraged you:
No matter where you've been or what your story holds... there's a place for you at God's table. You are invited.
The Surest Seat: Helping Your Kids Grow, Find Belonging, and Trust Jesus, Conversations with Heather Holleman
Episode 10: This Seat's Saved: Helping Kids Who Feel Left Out with Heather Holleman
What happens when the seat you hoped for—the one that seems to promise friendship, acceptance, or belonging – is saved for someone else?
In this episode of The Sublime Soiree Podcast, we welcome back our friend and mentor, author and professor Heather Holleman, to talk about This Seat's Saved, the first book in her Elita Brown Series.
As Elita prepares to enter seventh grade, she finds herself facing experiences familiar to young people, and – if we're honest – adults too: exclusion, comparison, jealousy, insecurity, and the desire to belong. Heather explains how fiction can give young readers a safe way to recognize and process these difficult emotions while discovering what really matters.
Heather also introduces us more fully to Mrs. Berkley, the wise, grandmotherly mentor who befriends Elita. Her example leads to a rich conversation about spiritual mentorship and the opportunities we have to intentionally invest in younger generations. Sometimes that happens through Bible study and prayer, but also through ordinary things like sharing a meal, offering a ride, opening our homes, or simply being available.
Finally, we talk about Elita's experience with bullying and false accusations and how those difficult situations can become opportunities to seek God, ask for help, practice kindness, and even learn compassion for those who hurt us.
Through it all, This Seat's Saved reminds young readers, and the rest of us, that the most secure seat isn't found at the popular table. It's the seat we already have with Jesus.
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Reflection Questions:
If this episode encouraged you:
No matter where you've been or what your story holds... there's a place for you at God's table. You are invited.
The Surest Seat: Helping Your Kids Grow, Find Belonging, and Trust Jesus, Conversations with Heather Holleman Episode 9 – Finding Your Seat: Introducing the Elita Brown Series with Heather Holleman
What if the most important thing a young person could learn before navigating the challenges of middle school is this: You already have a seat at the table with Jesus.
In this episode of The Sublime Soiree Podcast, we welcome back our friend and mentor, author, and professor Heather Holleman, for the beginning of a special five-part conversation about her young reader fiction books, The Elita Brown Series.
Heather shares how a story that began with her own experiences of jealousy, comparison, and feeling left out eventually became a series designed to help young readers understand their identity in Christ. After women responded deeply to Heather's story about her daughter's experience of exclusion at the middle school lunch table, many moms expressed a desire to help their daughters understand these truths before they entered middle school. Heather's daughter Kate suggested she write something different than another Bible study—a novel. That idea became the beginning of Elita Brown.
At the heart of the entire series is Ephesians 2:6: "God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus." Heather explains why the image of a seat is so powerful for young people. It communicates belonging, provision, identity, and the truth that we don't have to earn our place with Jesus.
We get to know Elita as she prepares to enter seventh grade—a time when it can feel as though everyone else is growing up faster, fitting in better, and knowing exactly where they belong. Elita's family lives simply while she has friends from very different socioeconomic circumstances, creating another layer of complexity as she learns to navigate friendships, comparison, and belonging.
Heather also explains the spiritual thread woven through all four books: God is an ever-present help in times of need. Through Elita's experiences, young readers are invited to discover that Jesus is present, hears them, knows what to do, and can be trusted. They also learn to understand God's Word, apply it to their lives, and recognize that they are already seated at the best table—with Jesus.
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If this episode encouraged you:
No matter where you've been or what your story holds... there's a place for you at God's table. You are invited.
What if the answer to a judgmental world isn't choosing the right megaphone—but choosing a better message?
After seven conversations exploring stories of judgment and mercy throughout Scripture, we close our series with Shannon Popkin by stepping back and looking at the bigger picture of Kinda Judgy. From Noah and Rahab to Jonah, Simon the Pharisee, the man born blind, and the second thief on the cross, one thread has continued to emerge: God is a judge who judges, but He is also profoundly merciful.
In fact, Shannon describes the message she hopes rises above all the noise around us: He is merciful. God's mercy doesn't mean that sin doesn't matter or that judgment isn't real. Rather, mercy means we don't receive the judgment we deserve. And when we truly recognize how much mercy we've received, it should change us. It should change how we see ourselves. It should change how we see God. And it should change how we see other people.
Shannon shares how writing Kinda Judgy transformed her own awareness of judgmentalism—including the ways she can be harsh and critical toward herself. She talks about using her "Judgy Heart Check" to pause when she finds herself judging someone and to ask whether she is treating them with contempt, assuming the worst, or forgetting that there is a better Judge.
The truth is, there is a better Judge: Jesus. He has the righteousness, the evidence, and the authority that we simply do not have. He sees the heart perfectly. And even more remarkably, He is a Judge whose heart overflows with mercy.
So what does it look like for Christians to model something different in a divided culture? We don't erase the lines between right and wrong. We also don't pick up the gavel and assume the responsibility that belongs to God. Instead, we hold biblical convictions while extending compassion, curiosity, grace, and mercy.
As Shannon reminds us, we can hope all things rather than assuming we know what is happening in someone else's heart. We can listen. We can believe the best. We can defer to God as the ultimate Judge. And as God's mercy transforms us, it also can spill over into our families, churches, communities, and the world around us.
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Reflection Questions
As you finish this episode, consider these questions:
If this episode encouraged you:
No matter where you've been or what your story holds... there's a place for you at God's table. You are invited.
We all know the story of Jesus on the cross. But what if one of the most powerful lessons about judgment and mercy comes from the criminal dying beside Him?
In this episode, we arrive at Calvary with Shannon Popkin and look closely at the second thief – the hardened criminal who begins by mocking Jesus but ends by recognizing Him as King and asking to be remembered in His kingdom.
What changed him? It wasn't a warning about judgment, nor a chance to prove himself, nor even time to make things right. The thief encountered the mercy of Jesus.
As Jesus endured the ultimate misjudgment – being treated as a criminal despite being completely righteous – He responded not with retaliation, but with mercy. His words, "Father, forgive them," reveal the astonishing heart of God toward sinners. And that mercy changed the man hanging beside Him.
The second thief saw what almost everyone else missed. While religious leaders, soldiers, and the crowd mocked Jesus, this dying criminal recognized Him as King. He asked for mercy, and Jesus welcomed him.
The cross shows us something we desperately need to remember: God's judgment and mercy are not opposites. At the cross, we see both. Jesus bore the judgment we deserved so that we could receive the mercy we could never earn. And if we have truly received that mercy, it should change the way we see ourselves, God, and everyone around us.
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Reflection Questions
As you finish this episode, consider these questions:
If this episode encouraged you:
No matter where you've been or what your story holds... there's a place for you at God's table. You are invited.
We all know the story of the man born blind. But what if the miracle isn't the only thing we should be looking at?
In this episode of The Sublime Soiree Podcast, Sue Lindsey and Linda Maynard continue their conversation with author Shannon Popkin about her book Kinda Judgy—and discover that while one blind man receives physical sight, the people who believe they can see clearly become increasingly spiritually blind. The Pharisees had drawn their own lines around God's law. They had added rules and requirements and then judged other people according to those standards. And when Jesus healed a man on the Sabbath, they couldn't see the miracle because they were too focused on the rules they had created.
Shannon helps us recognize how easily we can do the same thing. We may know what God's Word says, but then add our own convictions, preferences, and applications—and begin treating those things as though they carry the same authority as Scripture. This episode moves us to ask tough questions of ourselves: Who is holding the gavel in my life? Am I allowing Jesus to be the authority and judge? Have I picked up the gavel myself and begun deciding who is right, who is wrong, who belongs, and who doesn't?
The story also challenges the way we respond to suffering, by pointing out that the blind man's suffering wasn't a simple transaction of sin and punishment. Instead, Jesus revealed that it was so God could display His glory even in the midst of a broken world.
And perhaps the most beautiful part of the story comes at the end. When the Pharisees cast the newly sighted man out of the temple for breaking the rules, Jesus went looking for him. When everyone else pushed him away, Jesus welcomed him in. This episode led us to ask, "Am I willing to let Jesus show me where I am blind?"
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As you finish this episode, consider these questions:
If this episode encouraged you:
No matter where you've been or what your story holds... there's a place for you at God's table. You are invited.
We all know the story of the woman who anointed Jesus's feet. But what if the story isn't just about her? In this episode of The Sublime Soiree Podcast, Sue Lindsey and Linda Maynard continue their conversation with author Shannon Popkin about her book Kinda Judgy—and discover that one of the most uncomfortable people at the dinner table may actually be Simon the Pharisee. A woman known as a sinner enters Simon's home, weeps at Jesus' feet, and receives something Simon doesn't realize he needs: mercy. Simon looks at the woman and sees her sin. Jesus looks at the woman and sees her repentance. Then, Jesus encourages Simon to really get the picture. Shannon helps us see that Simon and the woman are both debtors. Their debts may look different, but neither one of them can pay. The woman recognizes her need for mercy. Simon doesn't. And here's where the story gets uncomfortable for us: How often do we recognize someone else's sin while remaining blind to our own?
In This Episode:As you finish this episode, consider these questions:
If this episode encouraged you:
No matter where you've been or what your story holds... there's a place for you at God's table. You are invited.
We all know the story of Jonah and the big fish. But what if the fish isn't actually the point?
In this episode of The Sublime Soiree Podcast, Sue Lindsey and Linda Maynard continue their conversation with author Shannon Popkin about her book Kinda Judgy—and discover that Jonah's greatest struggle wasn't disobedience. It was contempt.
Jonah wanted God's judgment for the people of Nineveh. God wanted to show them mercy. And here's where the story gets uncomfortable: How often do we want mercy for ourselves but judgment for someone else?
Shannon helps us see that Jonah wasn't simply a reluctant prophet. He was a man whose contempt for the Ninevites revealed something troubling in his own heart. And God didn't just pursue Nineveh—He pursued Jonah, too.
That's the surprising beauty of this story. God's mercy isn't only for the people we think need it. It's also for those of us who need Him to change our hearts. You may even find yourself asking: Who is my Ninevite?
In This Episode:As you finish this episode, consider these questions:
If this episode encouraged you:
No matter where you've been or what your story holds... there's a place for you at God's table. You are invited.
What does God see when He looks at someone whose past seems to disqualify her?
In this episode of The Sublime Soiree Podcast from You're Invited Ministries, Sue Lindsey and Linda Maynard continue their special series with author Shannon Popkin, exploring lessons from her book Kinda Judgy. This week, they turn to the surprising story of Rahab—a woman living in enemy territory who asked the God of Israel for mercy.
Rahab doesn't look like the obvious candidate for God's grace. Yet Shannon points out that Rahab's story answers an important question: What does God think about the person who wants His mercy?
As you listen, you'll discover how Rahab acted in faith with very little knowledge of God, why the spies were actually on a rescue mission, and how her story points us toward Jesus, who went "behind enemy lines" to rescue His enemies—including us.
You'll also be challenged to consider how easily we label people by their past instead of seeing their potential in God's hands. Rahab reminds us that no one is beyond God's reach and that the person we consider "too risky" may be exactly the person God is pursuing.
So, pull up a chair, open your Bible, and join us as we discover what happens when we allow God's extravagant mercy to reshape the way we see ourselves—and others.
In This EpisodeAs you finish this episode, consider these questions:
If this episode encouraged you:
No matter where you've been or what your story holds... there's a place for you at God's table. You are invited.
Can a God who judges also be perfectly merciful?
It's one of the hardest questions many people wrestle with—and one of the most important. In this episode of The Sublime Soiree Podcast from You're Invited Ministries, Sue Lindsey and Linda Maynard continue their special series with author Shannon Popkin, exploring lessons from her book Kinda Judgy. This week, they revisit the familiar story of Noah, not simply as a story about a flood, but as a powerful picture of God's justice, His extraordinary mercy, and His invitation to walk closely with Him.
Rather than asking, "Why would God judge?" Shannon invites us to ask a different question: How did God show such incredible restraint and mercy for so long? As you listen in, you'll discover why Noah's greatest distinction wasn't his perfection—it was that he walked with God. You'll also see how the ark foreshadows Christ, who bears God's judgment so that we might receive His mercy.
If you've ever struggled to reconcile God's justice with His love, or wondered how to move beyond a checklist faith into a genuine relationship with Him, this conversation will encourage, challenge, and deepen your understanding of God's heart. So, pull up a chair, open your Bible, and join us as we discover that God's mercy truly rises above His judgment.
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Reflection Questions
As you finish this episode, consider these questions:
If this episode encouraged you:
No matter where you've been or what your story holds... there's a place for you at God's table. You are invited.
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