It’s the first birthday of The Subtext! Savannah and Lee celebrate with an “Ask Us Anything” episode, answering listener questions about Bible translations, music, patriotism, how to leave your church community, and more.
 
Thank you to everyone who made year one of The Subtext special. We love you! Send your AMA questions anytime to us @thesubtextshow on Instagram or to info@nosmallendeavor.com
 
Things we mentioned in this episode:
Join us for No Small Endeavor Live <a href="https://tickets.nashvillesymphony.org/10621/10622">November 22 - The Schermerhorn Symphony Center</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/7QtGOWemQhY?si=UHlPkUHJcIsUnfR5">Méditation from the opera Thaïs by Jules Massenet</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/WAoLJ8GbA4Y?si=KiaHNyuhSQL6yGxO">Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/4OKLhtAPxc4?si=JF3sXIbE-57vBbYu">Down There by the Train by Tom Waits</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/z1rYmzQ8C9Q?si=67kkdJ_q-6KElqN8">Christmas Lights by Coldplay</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/1oZ6Z9xRxo8?si=TEe26TiWDCtWF030">A Change is Going to Come by Sam Cooke</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/E4j7kPx4uhw?si=Jir_RXyaH90ap4OL">Pilgrim by Steve Earle</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5t5IJAIkuUs?si=QOhe7DHzX2AJyQbJ">Little Girl Blue by Nina Simone</a>
<a href="https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/kim-stanley-robinson-a-novelist-imagines-a-livable-future">Kim Stanley Robinson on No Small Endeavor</a>
Consumerist corner: <a href="https://amzn.to/4dQp87Z">Stanley cup</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/46E3mk7">Apple AirTag</a>, <a href="https://amzn.to/4xPAhxh">Exfoliating Lip Balm</a>
 
 
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It’s the first birthday of The Subtext! Savannah and Lee celebrate with an “Ask Us Anything” episode, answering listener questions about Bible translations, music, patriotism, how to leave your church community, and more. Thank you to everyone who made year one of The Subtext special. We love you! Send your AMA questions anytime to us @thesubtextshow on Instagram or to info@nosmallendeavor.com Things we mentioned in this episode: Join us for No Small Endeavor Live November 22 - The Schermerhorn Symphony Center Méditation from the opera Thaïs by Jules Massenet Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber Down There by the Train by Tom Waits Christmas Lights by Coldplay A Change is Going to Come by Sam Cooke Pilgrim by Steve Earle Little Girl Blue by Nina Simone Kim Stanley Robinson on No Small Endeavor Consumerist corner: Stanley cup, Apple AirTag, Exfoliating Lip Balm Follow The Subtext: Instagram | Threads | X | YouTube | TikTok Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter | Lee's Newsletter Follow Savannah: Instagram | Substack Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s the first birthday of The Subtext! Savannah and Lee celebrate with an “Ask Us Anything” episode, answering listener questions about Bible translations, music, patriotism, how to leave your church community, and more.
 
Thank you to everyone who made year one of The Subtext special. We love you! Send your AMA questions anytime to us @thesubtextshow on Instagram or to info@nosmallendeavor.com
 
Things we mentioned in this episode:
Join us for No Small Endeavor Live&nbsp;<a href="https://tickets.nashvillesymphony.org/10621/10622" rel="noopener noreferrer">November 22 - The Schermerhorn Symphony Center</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/7QtGOWemQhY?si=UHlPkUHJcIsUnfR5" rel="noopener noreferrer">Méditation from the opera Thaïs by Jules Massenet</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/WAoLJ8GbA4Y?si=KiaHNyuhSQL6yGxO" rel="noopener noreferrer">Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/4OKLhtAPxc4?si=JF3sXIbE-57vBbYu" rel="noopener noreferrer">Down There by the Train by Tom Waits</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/z1rYmzQ8C9Q?si=67kkdJ_q-6KElqN8" rel="noopener noreferrer">Christmas Lights by Coldplay</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/1oZ6Z9xRxo8?si=TEe26TiWDCtWF030" rel="noopener noreferrer">A Change is Going to Come by Sam Cooke</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/E4j7kPx4uhw?si=Jir_RXyaH90ap4OL" rel="noopener noreferrer">Pilgrim by Steve Earle</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5t5IJAIkuUs?si=QOhe7DHzX2AJyQbJ" rel="noopener noreferrer">Little Girl Blue by Nina Simone</a>
<a href="https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/kim-stanley-robinson-a-novelist-imagines-a-livable-future" rel="noopener noreferrer">Kim Stanley Robinson on No Small Endeavor</a>
Consumerist corner:&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/4dQp87Z" rel="noopener noreferrer">Stanley cup</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/46E3mk7" rel="noopener noreferrer">Apple AirTag</a>,&nbsp;<a href="https://amzn.to/4xPAhxh" rel="noopener noreferrer">Exfoliating Lip Balm</a>
 
 
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How to Leave Your Church - Ask Us Anything 2

This episode has been living rent-free in our heads since season 3 of Nobody Wants This dropped on Netflix, so we're putting it back in your feed. 
 
What can a Netflix rom-com about a rabbi and an agnostic podcaster teach us about love, faith, and compromise?
In this episode, Savannah and Lee dive into the Netflix series Nobody Wants This, a smart and surprisingly tender rom-com about an agnostic podcaster (Kristen Bell) and a rabbi (Adam Brody) trying to make love work across lines of faith and conviction. The conversation unfolds into bigger questions: How do we love people whose choices we disagree with? When does compromise in a relationship become self-betrayal? Can married people be friends with people of the opposite sex? And what does it mean to convert to a different religion?
This episode originally released on November 12, 2025.
 
Things we mentioned in this episode:
<a href="https://amzn.to/4hJzHdP">⁠The Chosen by Chaim Potok⁠</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/47qm2VI">⁠My Name Is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok⁠</a>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70123920">Easy A</a>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/60033351">Saved</a>
<a href="https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/rainn-wilson-dwight-schrute-talks-about-religion-best-of-nse">⁠Rainn Wilson on No Small Endeavor⁠</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/43jE5KF">⁠Soul Boom by Rainn Wilson⁠</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4nJP9br">⁠Silence by Shusaku Endo⁠</a>
 
 
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This episode has been living rent-free in our heads since season 3 of Nobody Wants This dropped on Netflix, so we're putting it back in your feed. What can a Netflix rom-com about a rabbi and an agnostic podcaster teach us about love, faith, and compromise? In this episode, Savannah and Lee dive into the Netflix series Nobody Wants This, a smart and surprisingly tender rom-com about an agnostic podcaster (Kristen Bell) and a rabbi (Adam Brody) trying to make love work across lines of faith and conviction. The conversation unfolds into bigger questions: How do we love people whose choices we disagree with? When does compromise in a relationship become self-betrayal? Can married people be friends with people of the opposite sex? And what does it mean to convert to a different religion? This episode originally released on November 12, 2025. Things we mentioned in this episode: ⁠The Chosen by Chaim Potok⁠ ⁠My Name Is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok⁠ Easy A Saved ⁠Rainn Wilson on No Small Endeavor⁠ ⁠Soul Boom by Rainn Wilson⁠ ⁠Silence by Shusaku Endo⁠ Follow The Subtext: ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Threads⁠ | ⁠X⁠ | ⁠YouTube⁠ | ⁠TikTok⁠ Follow Lee: ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Twitter⁠ | ⁠Lee's Newsletter⁠ Follow Savannah: ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Substack⁠ Join our Email List: ⁠nosmallendeavor.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode has been living rent-free in our heads since season 3 of Nobody Wants This dropped on Netflix, so we're putting it back in your feed. 
 
What can a Netflix rom-com about a rabbi and an agnostic podcaster teach us about love, faith, and compromise?
In this episode, Savannah and Lee dive into the Netflix series Nobody Wants This, a smart and surprisingly tender rom-com about an agnostic podcaster (Kristen Bell) and a rabbi (Adam Brody) trying to make love work across lines of faith and conviction. The conversation unfolds into bigger questions: How do we love people whose choices we disagree with? When does compromise in a relationship become self-betrayal? Can married people be friends with people of the opposite sex? And what does it mean to convert to a different religion?
This episode originally released on November 12, 2025.
 
Things we mentioned in this episode:
<a href="https://amzn.to/4hJzHdP" rel="noopener noreferrer">⁠The Chosen by Chaim Potok⁠</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/47qm2VI" rel="noopener noreferrer">⁠My Name Is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok⁠</a>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70123920" rel="noopener noreferrer">Easy A</a>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/60033351" rel="noopener noreferrer">Saved</a>
<a href="https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/rainn-wilson-dwight-schrute-talks-about-religion-best-of-nse" rel="noopener noreferrer">⁠Rainn Wilson on No Small Endeavor⁠</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/43jE5KF" rel="noopener noreferrer">⁠Soul Boom by Rainn Wilson⁠</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4nJP9br" rel="noopener noreferrer">⁠Silence by Shusaku Endo⁠</a>
 
 
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Rent Free: Nobody Wants This

**This episode was recorded before the release on the new trailer** Meryl Streep is the voice of Aslan in Greta Gerwig's Narnia adaptation. Is this a threat to Christian orthodoxy or another culture-war distraction?
 
This week on The Subtext, Savannah and Lee discuss the casting controversy and dive into bigger questions about gender and how we imagine God. From C.S. Lewis' POV to feminine depictions of God in Scripture and church history, they explore what Christian humility, artistic freedom, and a more faithful public witness might look like.
 
Things we mentioned in this episode:
<a href="https://youtu.be/gDJ-ini7fF0?si=qeB30oEw8B9Ro7aq">NARNIA: THE MAGICIAN’S NEPHEW | Official Trailer</a>
<a href="https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/summer-staff-picks-the-hillbilly-thomists">Hillbilly Thomists on No Small Endeavor</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/1TfrQLTN94A?si=vwb0rOf5_B28beTf">Stephen Wilson Jr. - "billy"</a>
<a href="https://www.thefp.com/p/why-you-should-care-aslan-is-woman-movie-narnia">“Why You Should Care That Aslan is a Woman” by Liel Leibovitz</a>
<a href="https://summerstudy.yale.edu/sites/default/files/14lewis_priestesses.pdf">Priestesses in the Church? by C.S. Lewis</a>
<a href="https://theologicalstudies.net/articles/the-incomprehensibility-of-god-and-the-image-of-god-male-and-female/">The Incomprehensibility of God and the Image of God Male and Female by Elizabeth A. Johnson</a>
<a href="https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/william-paul-young-author-of-the-shack-best-of-nse">William Paul Young on No Small Endeavor</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4s6KXGE">The Shack by William Paul Young</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4zlhA5I">Finding Darwin's God by Kenneth R. Miller</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4yKudr5">The Crucifixion of the Warrior God by Gregory A. Boyd</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4rXyrcc">Cross Vision: How the Crucifixion of Jesus Makes Sense of Old Testament Violence by Gregory A. Boyd</a>
<a href="https://whchurch.org/sermon/wheres-mommy/">Where's Mommy - Gregory Boyd</a>
 
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**This episode was recorded before the release on the new trailer** Meryl Streep is the voice of Aslan in Greta Gerwig's Narnia adaptation. Is this a threat to Christian orthodoxy or another culture-war distraction? This week on The Subtext, Savannah and Lee discuss the casting controversy and dive into bigger questions about gender and how we imagine God. From C.S. Lewis' POV to feminine depictions of God in Scripture and church history, they explore what Christian humility, artistic freedom, and a more faithful public witness might look like. Things we mentioned in this episode: NARNIA: THE MAGICIAN’S NEPHEW | Official Trailer Hillbilly Thomists on No Small Endeavor Stephen Wilson Jr. - "billy" “Why You Should Care That Aslan is a Woman” by Liel Leibovitz Priestesses in the Church? by C.S. Lewis The Incomprehensibility of God and the Image of God Male and Female by Elizabeth A. Johnson William Paul Young on No Small Endeavor The Shack by William Paul Young Finding Darwin's God by Kenneth R. Miller The Crucifixion of the Warrior God by Gregory A. Boyd Cross Vision: How the Crucifixion of Jesus Makes Sense of Old Testament Violence by Gregory A. Boyd Where's Mommy - Gregory Boyd Follow The Subtext: Instagram | Threads | X | YouTube | TikTok Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter | Lee's Newsletter Follow Savannah: Instagram | Substack Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

**This episode was recorded before the release on the new trailer** Meryl Streep is the voice of Aslan in Greta Gerwig's Narnia adaptation. Is this a threat to Christian orthodoxy or another culture-war distraction?
 
This week on The Subtext, Savannah and Lee discuss the casting controversy and dive into bigger questions about gender and how we imagine God. From C.S. Lewis' POV to feminine depictions of God in Scripture and church history, they explore what Christian humility, artistic freedom, and a more faithful public witness might look like.
 
Things we mentioned in this episode:
<a href="https://youtu.be/gDJ-ini7fF0?si=qeB30oEw8B9Ro7aq" rel="noopener noreferrer">NARNIA: THE MAGICIAN’S NEPHEW | Official Trailer</a>
<a href="https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/summer-staff-picks-the-hillbilly-thomists" rel="noopener noreferrer">Hillbilly Thomists on No Small Endeavor</a>
<a href="https://youtu.be/1TfrQLTN94A?si=vwb0rOf5_B28beTf" rel="noopener noreferrer">Stephen Wilson Jr. - "billy"</a>
<a href="https://www.thefp.com/p/why-you-should-care-aslan-is-woman-movie-narnia" rel="noopener noreferrer">“Why You Should Care That Aslan is a Woman” by Liel Leibovitz</a>
<a href="https://summerstudy.yale.edu/sites/default/files/14lewis_priestesses.pdf" rel="noopener noreferrer">Priestesses in the Church? by C.S. Lewis</a>
<a href="https://theologicalstudies.net/articles/the-incomprehensibility-of-god-and-the-image-of-god-male-and-female/" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Incomprehensibility of God and the Image of God Male and Female by Elizabeth A. Johnson</a>
<a href="https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/william-paul-young-author-of-the-shack-best-of-nse" rel="noopener noreferrer">William Paul Young on No Small Endeavor</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4s6KXGE" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Shack by William Paul Young</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4zlhA5I" rel="noopener noreferrer">Finding Darwin's God by Kenneth R. Miller</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4yKudr5" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Crucifixion of the Warrior God by Gregory A. Boyd</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4rXyrcc" rel="noopener noreferrer">Cross Vision: How the Crucifixion of Jesus Makes Sense of Old Testament Violence by Gregory A. Boyd</a>
<a href="https://whchurch.org/sermon/wheres-mommy/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Where's Mommy - Gregory Boyd</a>
 
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Aslan is a Woman…Should You Care?

Is a $4,500 networking trip to Mar-a-Lago okay if it's for the kingdom? 
This week on The Subtext, Lee and Savannah unpack problematic Christian wealth seminars promising financial success for “kingdom impact." They explore the power of proximity, the dangers of “kingdom washing,” and what the early church might have to say about business, debt, and the pursuit of influence. Is Christian language transforming business, or simply baptizing capitalism?
 
Things we mentioned in this episode:
<a href="https://tickets.nashvillesymphony.org/10621/10622">Come see Ira Glass on No Small Endeavor Live at the Symphony!</a>
<a href="https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/christian-evangelist-defends-4500">Friendly Atheist “Christian evangelist defends $4,500 networking trip—and his “need” for luxury hotels”</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/3Vmcyau">Jesus and the Disinherited by Howard Thurman</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4j8rQJQ">The Cross and the Lynching Tree by James H. Cone</a>
<a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/09/life-surge-the-gospel-of-high-yields-inside-tim-tebows-favorite-wealth-seminar/">The Gospel of High Yields: Inside Tim Tebow’s Favorite Wealth Seminar</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/3TGlZRB">Poverty by America by Matthew Desmond</a>
 
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Is a $4,500 networking trip to Mar-a-Lago okay if it's for the kingdom? This week on The Subtext, Lee and Savannah unpack problematic Christian wealth seminars promising financial success for “kingdom impact." They explore the power of proximity, the dangers of “kingdom washing,” and what the early church might have to say about business, debt, and the pursuit of influence. Is Christian language transforming business, or simply baptizing capitalism? Things we mentioned in this episode: Come see Ira Glass on No Small Endeavor Live at the Symphony! Friendly Atheist “Christian evangelist defends $4,500 networking trip—and his “need” for luxury hotels” Jesus and the Disinherited by Howard Thurman The Cross and the Lynching Tree by James H. Cone The Gospel of High Yields: Inside Tim Tebow’s Favorite Wealth Seminar Poverty by America by Matthew Desmond Follow The Subtext: Instagram | Threads | X | YouTube | TikTok Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter | Lee's Newsletter Follow Savannah: Instagram | Substack Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Is a $4,500 networking trip to Mar-a-Lago okay if it's for the kingdom? 
This week on The Subtext, Lee and Savannah unpack problematic Christian wealth seminars promising financial success for “kingdom impact." They explore the power of proximity, the dangers of “kingdom washing,” and what the early church might have to say about business, debt, and the pursuit of influence. Is Christian language transforming business, or simply baptizing capitalism?
 
Things we mentioned in this episode:
<a href="https://tickets.nashvillesymphony.org/10621/10622" rel="noopener noreferrer">Come see Ira Glass on No Small Endeavor Live at the Symphony!</a>
<a href="https://www.friendlyatheist.com/p/christian-evangelist-defends-4500" rel="noopener noreferrer">Friendly Atheist “Christian evangelist defends $4,500 networking trip—and his “need” for luxury hotels”</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/3Vmcyau" rel="noopener noreferrer">Jesus and the Disinherited by Howard Thurman</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4j8rQJQ" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Cross and the Lynching Tree by James H. Cone</a>
<a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/09/life-surge-the-gospel-of-high-yields-inside-tim-tebows-favorite-wealth-seminar/" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Gospel of High Yields: Inside Tim Tebow’s Favorite Wealth Seminar</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/3TGlZRB" rel="noopener noreferrer">Poverty by America by Matthew Desmond</a>
 
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The Separation of Church & Business

This week on The Subtext: Macklemore, Ed Sheeran, free speech, and the billionaire power behind the music business. Lee and Savannah unpack the controversy, looking to Dolly Parton as a guide. 
 
What happens when public outrage becomes a purity test? Is it all just “vanity politics,” or what are we actually doing about the things we say we care about?
 
Things we mentioned in this episode:
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/ae94231d-0f04-482a-b9ee-9911e339e3ed">M*A*S*H*</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/47zwR6V">All in the Family</a>
<a href="https://armchairexpertpod.com/pods/olivia-fox-cabane">Olivia Fox Cabane (on the science of charisma) on Armchair Expert</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4AQy6fv">The Charisma Myth by Olivia Fox Cabane</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4hvb0na">Christ in the Rubble by Munther Isaac</a>
<a href="https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/munther-isaac-palestinian-christian-pastor-on-war-hope-and-love">Munther Isaac on No Small Endeavor</a>
<a href="https://www.threads.com/@dr.queenie.educates/post/DdXxELUG1No?xmt=AQG0ujxWPcj-ENQsvEtbzTOamft6lLLkzzISgAlrbxo8zaU8nYi-8wSF_8bMLbxl2Tmf3v2h">Dr. Queenie Johnson’s Analysis on what she calls “Vanity Politics”</a>
 
 
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This week on The Subtext: Macklemore, Ed Sheeran, free speech, and the billionaire power behind the music business. Lee and Savannah unpack the controversy, looking to Dolly Parton as a guide. What happens when public outrage becomes a purity test? Is it all just “vanity politics,” or what are we actually doing about the things we say we care about? Things we mentioned in this episode: M*A*S*H* All in the Family Olivia Fox Cabane (on the science of charisma) on Armchair Expert The Charisma Myth by Olivia Fox Cabane Christ in the Rubble by Munther Isaac Munther Isaac on No Small Endeavor Dr. Queenie Johnson’s Analysis on what she calls “Vanity Politics” Follow The Subtext: Instagram | Threads | X | YouTube | TikTok Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter | Lee's Newsletter Follow Savannah: Instagram | Substack Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week on The Subtext: Macklemore, Ed Sheeran, free speech, and the billionaire power behind the music business. Lee and Savannah unpack the controversy, looking to Dolly Parton as a guide. 
 
What happens when public outrage becomes a purity test? Is it all just “vanity politics,” or what are we actually doing about the things we say we care about?
 
Things we mentioned in this episode:
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/ae94231d-0f04-482a-b9ee-9911e339e3ed" rel="noopener noreferrer">M*A*S*H*</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/47zwR6V" rel="noopener noreferrer">All in the Family</a>
<a href="https://armchairexpertpod.com/pods/olivia-fox-cabane" rel="noopener noreferrer">Olivia Fox Cabane (on the science of charisma) on Armchair Expert</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4AQy6fv" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Charisma Myth by Olivia Fox Cabane</a>
<a href="https://amzn.to/4hvb0na" rel="noopener noreferrer">Christ in the Rubble by Munther Isaac</a>
<a href="https://www.nosmallendeavor.com/munther-isaac-palestinian-christian-pastor-on-war-hope-and-love" rel="noopener noreferrer">Munther Isaac on No Small Endeavor</a>
<a href="https://www.threads.com/@dr.queenie.educates/post/DdXxELUG1No?xmt=AQG0ujxWPcj-ENQsvEtbzTOamft6lLLkzzISgAlrbxo8zaU8nYi-8wSF_8bMLbxl2Tmf3v2h" rel="noopener noreferrer">Dr. Queenie Johnson’s Analysis on what she calls “Vanity Politics”</a>
 
 
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Macklemore, Ed Sheeran, and Vanity Politics

We are pleased to announce that this fall we are launching a new show called "The Subtext."
 
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We are pleased to announce that this fall we are launching a new show called "The Subtext."
 
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Preview: The Subtext

A pop culture podcast from an internet expert, Savannah Locke & an ethics professor who doesn't own a cell phone, Lee C. Camp. On The Subtext, Savannah brings a pop-culture moment (celebrity drama, internet debates, viral shows), and together they ask a deeper question: why does any of this actually matter? Each week they dive into the headlines and investigate what they reveal about our culture, our theology, and the lives we’re living online. 

It’s a conversation between someone who lives very much on the internet and someone who lives mostly off of it, and that tension makes for surprisingly meaningful dialogue. Come listen as we go beneath the headlines and beyond the obvious.

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A pop culture podcast from an internet expert, Savannah Locke & an ethics professor who doesn't own a cell phone, Lee C. Camp. On The Subtext, Savannah brings a pop-culture moment (celebrity drama, internet debates, viral shows), and together they ask a deeper question: why does any of this actually matter? Each week they dive into the headlines and investigate what they reveal about our culture, our theology, and the lives we’re living online. It’s a conversation between someone who lives very much on the internet and someone who lives mostly off of it, and that tension makes for surprisingly meaningful dialogue. Come listen as we go beneath the headlines and beyond the obvious.

A pop culture podcast from an internet expert, Savannah Locke &amp; an ethics professor who doesn't own a cell phone, Lee C. Camp. On The Subtext, Savannah brings a pop-culture moment (celebrity drama, internet debates, viral shows), and together they ask a deeper question: why does any of this actually matter? Each week they dive into the headlines and investigate what they reveal about our culture, our theology, and the lives we’re living online. 

It’s a conversation between someone who lives very much on the internet and someone who lives mostly off of it, and that tension makes for surprisingly meaningful dialogue. Come listen as we go beneath the headlines and beyond the obvious.

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