There’s an old Army cliché that says, ‘you don’t have to train to suck.’ Is that true, though? Today, Adam and Dan use vignettes ranging from Navy SEAL training to slogging through a Jane Austen novel to illustrate the importance of overcoming adversity. Tune in to hear them discuss the benefits of challenging ourselves, strategies for incorporating adversity into our lives and the lives of our kids, and figuring out when enough becomes too much.

Dan Pace:

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Adam Karaoguz:

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What do you do when you’re stuck between a rock and hard place? Today, Adam and Dan continue their inquiry into the decision making process by exploring the ethical side of the problem space. They use a series of combat and non-combat vignettes to unpack lose / lose decision making with the goal of understanding how to train ourselves to identify the least bad options available. They conclude the episode by applying the decision making model to a hot-button topic, euthanasia, and draw some interesting conclusions about the subject. Tune in to find out more!

Dan Pace:

Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/)

Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f) 

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Adam Karaoguz:

Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): 

Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): 

Today, the duo discusses decision making. After breaking down a vignette from the week where everyone involved was unhappy with the outcome—the Deer Wars—Adam and Dan discuss the way we use our heads, hearts, and guts to make choices. During the episode, they talk about the limits of rationality, the risks of bias, and the need to strive for objectivity and self-awareness, and by the end, they reach an agreed-upon approach that allows for balanced, effective decision making. 

Dan Pace:

Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/)

Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f) 

Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html):

Adam Karaoguz:

Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): 

Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): 

Dan and Adam discuss accountability, parenthood, and the influence of technology and social media on modern life.

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Welcome to The Surf ’n Turf show! A show that ​​tackles life’s chaos with candor, covering everything from parenting and masculinity to fitness and finance. 

Today, Adam and Dan dig into two facets of masculinity - accountability and self-reliance. They dig into their personal and parenting experiences to explore the positive and negative aspects and try to bracket in on the golden mean for each of them. 

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