This is a very special episode for Apocalex. We have interrupted the usual schedule to bring you a very raw, candid and open discussion about race, racism and an introduction to white priviledge. I'm joined by BR crew member and friend Austen who is mixed race and had the added bonus of living in both the UK and US.

If you would like to make the first steps in learning more about talking about race, or learn about white privilege, I can recommend reading the book "Why I'm no longer talking to white people about race" by Reni Eddo-Lodge, or watching the Netflix special "hello privilege, its me Chelsea" by Chelsea Handler

Please note: this episode is mostly unedited. I wanted to keep the pauses, corrections and 'umms' in to show that I am still learning and hesitating, but that we would rather talk and make mistakes than not talk at all

Black lives matter