The Sustainability Agenda

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  • Episode 132: Interview with Professor Katharine Hayhoe on how to have a conversation on the highly politicised and divisive subject of climate change

    In this interview, Professor Katharine Hayhoe, one of climate change’s most effective communicators, provides inspired guidance on how to navigate all sides of the conversation on a topic that is currently one of the most politicised and divisive. Katharine discusses her new book Saving Us: A Climate Scientist's Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World, illustrated her arguments with stories from her personal experiences. Katharine argues we need to go beyond facts and statistics and begin essential climate conversations with shared values, connect the issue to our individual identities, and help inspire collective action. For Katharine,  urgency of action is paramount: “The key conclusion of the IPCC is simply this. Every year counts, every action matters, every choice can make a difference.”

     

    Katharine Hayhoe is an atmospheric scientist—and a professor of political science at Texas Tech University, where she is co-director of the Climate Science Center. She has served as lead author on the Second, Third, and Fourth National Climate Assessments. Katharine also hosts and produces the PBS Digital Series, Global Weirding, and serves on advisory committees for a broad range of organizations including the Smithsonian Natural History Museum, the Earth Science Women’s Network, and the American Association for the Advancement of Science. She has recently become Chief Scientist, at the Nature Conservancy, the world's largest conservation organization- her new book Saving Us: A Climate Scientist's Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World has just been published.

    49 min
  • Episode 131: Interview with French anthropologist Professor Philippe Descola on our relationship with nature

    In this fascinating interview,  leading anthropologist Professor Philippe Descola discusses his latest book Beyond Nature and Culture—exploring the different ways mankind relate to nature. In this book, Professor Descola identifies four key ways in which different societies have thought about nature over time-animism, totemism, analogism, and our current relationship: naturalism, a strict separation between the cultural worlds of human beings, on the one hand, and the non-human things of nature, on the other. Professor Descola discusses how we can, and must today, learn from other ways of connecting to nature, how they can inspire us as a society. Notwithstanding what he sees as a deeply challenging time, Professor Descola finds inspiration in the activism of young people-and emerging approaches embodied in the Zones a Defendre (ZADS) in France. 

     

    Philippe Descola is a French anthropologist with a reputation as one of the most important anthropologists working today. He held the chair of Anthropology of Nature at the Collège de France between 2000-2019 and is a fellow of the British Academy and a foreign member of the American Academy of Arts. His most recent book Beyond Nature and Culture has been hugely influential, exploring the ways in which different societies have thought about our relationship with nature over time.

    1 hr 5 min
  • Episode 130: Interview with Professor Stephen Macekura exploring critiques of economic growth across the twentieth-century

    Professor Stephen Macekura explores how ideas of economic growth came into being across the 20th century world --and the types of politics and political conflicts that they have engendered across the world. He explores the work of those thinkers who have criticized and doubted the virtues of the notion of limitless growth, and in particular, those who have criticized the ways in which growth was measured and conventional accounting techniques, and proposed alternative ways of measuring and thus valuing the world over time. Deep insights into a road not taken--and a potent critique of current approaches to dealing with the environmental crises we are now facing.

    Stephen Macekura is a scholar of U.S. and international history, with a particular focus on political economy, international development, U.S. foreign relations, and environmentalism. Associate Professor of Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies, Stephen’s first book is “Of Limits and Growth: The Rise of Global ‘Sustainable Development’ in the Twentieth Century,” was published by Cambridge University Press. His latest book The Mismeasure of Progress: Economic Growth and its Critics, explores various critiques of economic growth across the twentieth-century, how reformers have challenged and sought to rethink the ways in which the concept of “growth” has been defined, assessed, and measured.

    1 hr 4 min
  • Episode 129: Interview with James Cameron, a Friend of COP26, about the prospects for COP26

    In an interview done earlier this year, long time climate activist James Cameron provides a fascinating insider’s perspective the on the COP— highlighting the highs and lows of various COPs over the last thirty years or so—and the COP’s greatest achievements—against a background of slow but growing momentum in the private and public sphere to deal with climate change. James also discusses the vital and growing role of the legal system in dealing with global warming. He talks about the work that he has done over this time supporting the various COPs -and COP23 in particular. James also discusses the prospects for COP26 and shares his optimism on the prospects for businesses pursuing Net Zero strategies. Fascinating and first-hand insights into international and multilateral approaches to responding to climate change. 

     

    James Cameron is an influential figure within the international climate change community. He has been engaged with environmental and climate change policy for some 30 years, working variously as a barrister, financier, social entrepreneur, and as a trusted advisor to myriad climate change and environmental organisations. He has been involved in many of the COPs over recent decades, most notably COP X in Fiji. James is called “a Friend of COP26,” advising the UK government on the upcoming COP in Glasgow in November. He is also a member of HM Treasury's Infrastructure UK Advisory Council, GE's ecomagination advisory board, is an advisor to the Climate Bonds Initiative, and a trustee member of the UK Green Building Council.

    1 hr 8 min
  • Episode 128: The Geopolitics of Climate Change: interview with Gerald Butts, Vice Chairman of the political risk consultancy, Eurasia Group

    As the relationship between the US and China grows more tense, we discuss the geopolitics of climate change. What impact does geopolitics have on national responses to climate change? How is the relationship between China and the US evolving? Gerald Butts believes that geopolitics is definitional when it comes to climate change. He discusses the ways in which the international political arena around climate has become yet another theater for strategic, largely economic competition. He argues that the core objectives of nation states are becoming aligned with the core objectives of climate policy--leading to an energy transition that will proceed faster than it might otherwise have. At the same time, he believes that it is likely to be a messy transition with a lot of turbulence.

     

    Gerald Butts is a Canadian political consultant who served as the Principal Secretary to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau from 2015 -2019. He is currently vice chairman and a senior advisor at Eurasia Group, a political risk consultancy, and leads New Climate Group, a consultancy that advises global financial firms, educational institutions, and philanthropists on strategic investments in climate mitigation and resilience, and artificial intelligence.

     

     

    58 min
  • Episode 127: Innovation Forum Founder Toby Webb on building resilient smallholder supply chains and sustainability trends within the food industry

    In this deep dive on sustainability within the food industry, Toby identifies three key trends –resilience, disclosure and consumer awareness – driving changes within the food industry generally. He discusses Innovation Forum’s recent detailed study on smallholder farmers, responsible for a very large amount of the world's food supply. The report highlights the ongoing challenges facilitating access to better markets, the need to develop resilient smallholder farming communities, and the importance of developing alternative income streams for smallholders, now and in the future. Toby also explores unfolding agriculture developments, touching on new “forest positive” strategies, as well as the possibilities of carbon sequestration as a ‘product’ which smallholder farmers can sell to international markets. And he discusses the impact climate change and sustainability is having on the wine industry--and the work he is doing with the new cross industry Sustainable Wine Roundtable.

     

    Toby Webb is the founder of Innovation Forum a UK based purpose driven company that works in the areas of food, agriculture, land use, plastics, apparel and textiles and Scope III GHG emission. Innovation Forum brings together business executives with civil society groups, governments, academics and other experts, to find solutions to difficult supply chain challenges. He is also the founder of Sustainable Wine Ltd. and the Sustainable Wine Roundtable.

    1 hr 5 min
  • Episode 126: Nigel Topping, the UK's High-Level Climate Action Champion, on COP26


    In this fascinating interview, Nigel Topping, the UK's High-Level Climate Action Champion discusses the prospects for the upcoming COP26 in November in Glasgow. Against a background of growing momentum for change, Nigel reflects on the goals and expectations for COP26 -- and identifies some of the outstanding issues to be addressed over the coming months. Nigel discusses the growth and development of the carbon offset market, Net Zero, and the growing corporate commitments of Race to Zero, a global campaign Led by the High-Level Climate Champions for Climate Action. Nigel also disucsses the vital importance of resilience -and the Race to Resilience campaign that aims to catalyse a step-change in global ambition and action for climate resilience, not only withstanding climate shocks but flourishing in spite of them.

     

    Nigel Topping is the UK's High-Level Climate Action Champion, appointed by the UK Prime Minister in January 2020.  The role of the high-level champions is to strengthen collaboration and drive action from businesses, investors, organisations, cities, and regions on climate change, and coordinate this work with governments and parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). Nigel was most recently CEO of We Mean Business, a coalition of businesses working to accelerate the transition to a zero carbon economy. Prior to that he was Executive Director of the Carbon Disclosure Project, following an 18 year career in the private sector, having worked across the world in emerging markets and manufacturing.

    31 min
  • Episode 125: Interview with Jeremy Lent on finding our place in the universe by integrating science and traditional wisdom

    In this wide-ranging interview, Jeremy Lent discusses his fascinating new book Web of Meaning which combines findings in cognitive science, systems theory and traditional Chinese and Buddhist thought, to develop a framework that integrates both science and meaning in a coherent whole. Jeremy discusses what he sees as an essential problem at the heart of our current worldview: how man is separated from nature which is seen purely as a resource. He highlights a very different perspective, common to many indigenous peoples, how we are interrelated, not just all humans related to each other, but seeing all of the living earth around us all of life as being our relations. Jeremy also shares his long standing criticisms on the structure of the modern corporation and its role in society, in light of the recent Shell climate litigation, and the election of new directors to the board of Exxon, instigated by a small activist investor-which has been called the oil industry’s “Black Wednesday.” 

    Jeremy is an award winning author and founder of the nonprofit Liology Institute, dedicated to fostering a worldview that could enable humanity to thrive sustainably on the earth. His writings investigate the underlying causes and the patterns of thought that have led our civilization to its current sustainability crisis. The Patterning Instinct is a cultural history of humanity’s search for meaning, traces the deepest dark of foundations of our modern worldview. His most recent book is Web of Meaning: integrating science and traditional wisdom to find our place in the universe. It has recently been published in the UK and is published in the US in July. Born in London, England, Lent received a BA in English Literature from Cambridge University, an MBA from the University of Chicago, and was a former internet company CEO. He lives with his partner in Berkeley, California.

    1 hr 2 min
  • Episode 124: Interview with Professor Daniela Gabor on funding the transition to a low carbon economy

    In this fascinating interview, Daniela discusses the eye-opening sums of money needed to achieve a transition to a low carbon economy - $1 trillion-$2 trillion a year to achieve net zero emissions by mid-century, according to some estimates-- and how this can be funded. She explores the evolving relationship between the public sector and private finance - a renewed partnership—and how to assure that any new flows of private capital go into genuine green investments, rather than greenwashing. At the heart of this discussion: Daniela’s recent research on investors' plans to to “escort and derisk” private capital investments in the global south. 

     

    Daniela Gabor is associate professor in economics at the University of the West of England, Bristol. She holds a PhD in banking and finance from the University of Stirling (2009). Her main interests are in macro-finance, monetary theory and central banking and she has published on central banking in crisis, on the governance of global banks and the IMF, and on shadow banking and repo market. She has a special interest in the way  finance is being restructured to deliver on current environmental goals.

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    1 hr 5 min
  • Episode 123: interview with economic anthropologist Dr Jason Hickel about his most recent book Less is more: How Degrowth will save the world

    In this wide-ranging interview, economic anthropologist Jason Hickel discusses his most recent book Less is more: how degrowth will save the world --charting out an economic vision to a sustainable future. This is a deep dive into to the world of degrowth – a powerful critique of one of the most deeply held ideas at the heart of economics—endless economic growth. Jason argues that green economic growth is an illusion and that we need to abandon GDP growth as an economic goal—one that is even situated at the heart of the SDGs. He calls for a focused reduction of (economic) growth in areas are less socially useful and environmentally harmful—while recognising the economic growth needs of countries in the global south. Jason returns repeated to the question of environmental justice-arguing that we also need to address significant underlying social inequities if we are to undertake radical climate policy. A fascinating and thought-provoking interview.

     

    Dr Jason Hickel is an economic anthropologist, author, and a Fellow of the Royal Society of arts. He is a visiting senior fellow at the International inequalities Institute at the London School of Economics and senior lecturer at Goldsmiths, University of London. His most recent books are The Divide, and Less is more: how degrowth will save the world.

    1 hr 3 min

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