When 9/11 happened both of us were 17 years old. In this episode we recall where we were that day, what our world was like at the time, and what has changed since then.

Is there universal or absolute truth? Why is any standard of truth under attack? If something is true, does it need to be defended? We tackle some of our deeper questions in this episode. But first, it's obvious that we don't understand... a few things.

When is violence justifiable? What is the difference between hunting culture and gun culture? Do we need to support every war to be patriotic? What's the dumbest thing you've done with a gun? All part of our discussion this week.

Tune in this week to hear our thoughts on Space Force, Aliens, and to hear Nate share his experience with UFO's! Fair warning, we discuss these things from a Christian perspective and Christians rarely discuss aliens... publicly.

Why would anyone identify as a capitalist when they're know for greed, monopolies, selfishness, and exploiting the poor working class? Wouldn't it be nice if we could all be socialist and let the government care for us, lifting everyone out of poverty?

What are your go-to stories? We tell some of our favorites on this episode. We saved the best for last :)

We continue to air some of our political opinions that are not the most popular among American evangelicals. Hopefully hearing our different ideas helps you feel free to express your own! Head over to @thethingswesaypodcast on Facebook to continue the conversation.

We finally air some of our political opinions that are not popular... or maybe just don't fit in the box of mainstream American evangelical politics. Either way, feel free to listen along, disagree, think, come up with counter arguments, and express your weird opinion too! It's a 2-part podcast, so more to follow next week.

We talk about the books that formed us. What we read as children, what impacted us as teens, and what we are still reading today. Stick around to the end to hear our "Must Read" lists! Warning: there's a couple tangents along the way.

These are truly stupid things that only bother us. They're weird, corny, and probably a bit petty... but so are we!