Ismail Amla joins Scott Hamilton on The Third Half for a thoughtful, deeply human conversation about leadership, learning from failure, curiosity, and building things that last in a world that won’t stand still.
From a BBC Micro bought by his dad, to boardrooms spanning Network Rail, UK Sport, academia, startups and global consulting, Ismail’s career has been anything but linear. He reflects on studying computer science “last century”, surviving the dot-com crash as a first-time CEO, and the leadership lessons that only show up when things fall apart.
The conversation moves through startups versus corporates, moving a family from Bolton to New York, and why failure might be the most expensive and valuable MBA you’ll ever earn. Ismail shares sharp insights on why technology is perhaps no longer the differentiator it was, and why storytelling, diversity and trust now matter more than scale.
There’s also a timely dive into AI, technical debt, sustainability and ESG not as buzzwords, but as real leadership responsibilities with real societal impact.
It’s thoughtful, candid, occasionally funny, and refreshingly honest — a conversation about privilege, responsibility, and building cultures where curiosity and experimentation aren’t side projects, they’re business as usual.