What happens when someone who once struggled with English in high school eventually becomes a university writing instructor, author, poet, and mentor to aspiring writers?

In this episode of Thought Atlas, H. A. Callum shares how a lifelong love of reading and writing eventually led him from a career in the legal field into literature and education.

We explore the connection between law and storytelling, and how working on major legal cases taught Callum to think in terms of narrative, evidence, credibility, and perspective. He also explains why he encourages his students to write in their own voice, embrace the “nastiest, ugliest first draft,” and understand that much of the real writing happens during revision.

Callum also shares his perspective on artificial intelligence as a tool for creatives, the fear surrounding AI and creative work, and how technology can potentially free people from administrative tasks and give them more time to create.

The conversation touches on teaching, creativity, fatherhood, writing for young readers, community engagement, and his decision to connect his upcoming book Red, White, and Buttercup with Historic Fairhill in Philadelphia.

Most importantly, Callum offers encouragement to anyone waiting for permission to begin: believe in yourself, protect your creative time, learn from rejection, and don’t give up.

Food for thought: “There are two gifts we should give our children. One is roots, and the other is wings.”

To learn more about H. A. Callum, his books, and his work, visit HACALLUMWRITES.com, which he says also contains links to his social media and a contact form.

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Who are you when the titles, achievements, expectations, and identities you’ve built around yourself fall away?

In this episode of Thought Atlas, I sit down with Michael N. Fineman, an author, speaker, leadership strategist, and father whose work centers on identity, authenticity, communication, leadership, and purpose.

Michael introduces the idea of “Authority Drift”—the gradual process of making small compromises that move us away from what we genuinely believe. He explains how decisions made to satisfy expectations, increase revenue, grow a customer base, or respond to external pressures can slowly create a feeling that something isn’t right, even when everything appears successful from the outside.

We explore why people can have the money, houses, cars, titles, and achievements yet still feel disconnected from themselves.

Michael’s own story gives this idea considerable weight. He describes being sent to boarding schools from a young age and eventually living with his biological grandmother from the age of 15. He says these experiences contributed to a profound struggle with identity and a search for purpose.

Later in life, his Christian faith became central to how he understood his identity. He describes discovering a sense of acceptance through his relationship with God and explains how that changed his confidence, his leadership, and his need for other people’s approval.

This leads to one of the most important ideas in our conversation: identity should not be built on shifting circumstances.

Michael explains why tying your identity to a business, career, position, or achievement can leave you lost when that external thing changes. He shares examples from his work with successful people who, in his words, can become “so poor that all they have is money.”

We also discuss his philosophy of wealth. Michael describes money as a tool and argues that life changes when the question shifts from “What can I get?” to “What can I give?”

Fatherhood is another major part of the conversation. Michael reflects on spending 14 years as a single father and explains how intentionally investing in his son shaped his understanding of leadership. One principle he carries into his work is that he wants his son’s “floor to be my ceiling”—a desire to help the next generation begin further ahead.

We then explore patience, surrender, and faith through Michael’s experience of waiting 14 years before meeting his wife. He describes making a list of the qualities he wanted in a wife, eventually surrendering his attempt to control the outcome, and then meeting her unexpectedly.

The conversation also turns toward AI and the human advantage.

Michael argues that as artificial intelligence becomes increasingly capable, authenticity and genuine human connection may become even more valuable. He believes humans possess something machines cannot replicate: inspiration arriving unexpectedly in the human mind. He encourages people to pay attention to AI’s impact on work while also recognizing the advantages of being human.

Finally, Michael breaks leadership down into four layers: confidence, authority, authenticity, and identity. In his framework, authentic confidence begins with knowing who you are and being willing to remain coachable.

And he leaves listeners with one powerful question:

“Where in my life am I wearing a mask? Where am I being what I think I’m supposed to be, rather than who I am?”

Listeners can connect with Michael through Authority Drift Book, where he says they can get a digital copy of his book along with additional gifts. He also directs listeners to The Authority Drift. He says he can also be found on LinkedIn and Facebook under Michael N. Fineman, with Authority Drift also on Facebook and Instagram.

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Food for thought: “Who you are as a person is going to change the world.”

What does it really mean to find your voice?

In this episode of Thought Atlas, I sit down with Alison Love David, a professional singer of 32 years, coach, writer, speaker, and vocal guide whose work centers on helping people connect with their authentic selves through voice and self-expression.

Alison explains that finding your voice isn’t necessarily about singing or speaking. Sometimes, it’s about daring to be yourself. She describes how people can spend their lives performing roles they believe others expect from them—changing how they behave depending on who they’re with, suppressing what they really want to say, or simply going along with situations that don’t feel right.

She knows this experience personally.

As a performer, Alison learned to inhabit songs and become the character or story within them. But she discovered that being herself between songs could be much harder. After years of adapting to what she thought other people wanted from her, she describes herself as having been a “chameleon”—and says constantly changing herself was exhausting.

We explore the difference between performing confidently and living authentically, and what it can mean to find your voice in everyday life.

For Alison, finding your voice can mean deciding what you actually want to do with your life, saying no, advocating for yourself, expressing love, starting a relationship or business conversation, or simply allowing yourself to stop participating in a conversation you no longer want to have.

The conversation then moves into the human voice itself.

Alison describes the voice as an instrument everyone possesses—one capable of communicating joy, sadness, anger, encouragement, vulnerability, and countless other emotions. She explains why she believes the voice has such a profound place in human culture and why sound can carry feelings even without words.

We also explore the relationship between voice and self-kindness.

Alison encourages people to observe their inner self-talk and notice how harshly they speak to themselves. She describes creating short “mantras” and lullaby-like recordings that people can use to encourage and soothe themselves.

She shares an example of helping a client turn the enthusiasm she felt when talking about her children into a short ringtone—a reminder of the joy and love she already carried within herself.

Another theme is vulnerability.

Alison believes sharing parts of ourselves can take courage, but that vulnerability can also become a gift to other people. She describes a group she worked with where participants shared struggles such as financial worries, exhaustion, and heartbreak, then transformed those feelings into encouraging words and eventually a shared mantra.

We also discuss silence.

After around 14 years of meditation, Alison says she has learned to become more comfortable with silence and with simply observing her thoughts. She explains how silence can create space to be comfortable in your own skin, and why silence can also make public speaking more powerful when used deliberately.

As the conversation comes to a close, Alison encourages listeners to step away from constant distraction and comparison, turn inward, feel their feelings, listen to their bodies, and create safe spaces where they can gradually reveal more of themselves.

Her message is deeply affirming:

You are beautiful. You are naturally a wonderful person. You matter, and you have something beautiful to share.

Listeners can connect with Alison through AlisonDavid.com, or through her coaching website, Free Your True Voice. She also says listeners can find her as Alison David Vocalist on Instagram and Facebook, and Alison David Singer on Facebook.

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Food for thought: “You can do whatever you put your mind to.”

What if the fictional worlds we escape into can actually help us understand the world we live in?

In this episode of Thought Atlas, I sit down with Terrence L. Rotering, a retired U.S. Air Force officer, author, and storyteller whose massive fiction project brings together fantasy, science fiction, and spiritual warfare.

Terrence grew up in Wisconsin and attended the United States Air Force Academy before spending 20 years in the Air Force as a weapon systems officer. He later spent another 15 years serving at NORAD and Northcom. After retiring to Colorado with his wife and two dogs, he found himself asking what his next purpose could be.

The answer was writing.

Terrence’s journey began decades earlier when he wrote a short story for his two young sons because he wanted them to understand that they, too, could have a voice and someday write books. Years later, that story expanded. In 2024, he returned to it with the intention of creating a trilogy. That eventually became the beginning of what he describes as four trilogies, with more planned.

Today, he says the universe has grown to more than 5,000 pages, 10,000 years, and seven dimensions.

But this isn’t simply an exercise in world-building.

Terrence explains how he uses fantasy, science fiction, and spiritual warfare to explore purpose, sacrifice, good and evil, faith, courage, and humanity’s place within a much larger reality. His stories move across different worlds and periods, from dragons and swords to tactical aircraft, spacecraft, artificial intelligence, wormholes, and time travel.

One of the central ideas behind the series is what Terrence calls “unfencing the fiction.” Rather than allowing the story to remain safely contained inside a fictional universe, he wants to connect its themes back to the reader’s own reality.

We discuss why he believes stories can teach us through the experiences of characters, allowing readers to encounter ideas and perspectives they might otherwise never experience themselves.

Terrence also shares several experiences he calls “Godwinks”—unexpected coincidences that he says convinced him that there was something beyond his own imagination influencing the development of his stories. He recounts one particularly striking example involving the name of an ancient location that he says emerged from the initials of fictional locations he had created years earlier.

We also explore how his military background influences his writing. His experience with aircraft, strategy, tactics, combat, courage, and the sacrifices he witnessed has helped him incorporate those elements into the battles and characters throughout his fictional universe.

For Terrence, spiritual warfare represents an ongoing struggle between good and evil, expressed differently across different worlds, eras, and technologies. His Christian beliefs are central to that framework.

Perhaps the most personal lesson comes from writing itself.

At 63, Terrence says the experience taught him that life isn’t over simply because you’ve moved through previous careers or decided that you didn’t like something in the past. He encourages people to revisit old interests, try new things, and remain open to discovering something that could become one of the most important things they’ve ever done.

His message is ultimately one of purpose and possibility:

Don’t be afraid to try different things.

Listeners can connect with Terrence, learn more about his books, and send him questions through his website, Chronicles of Trinian. He also says his books are available through Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and other retailers, and that he shares music videos connected to his stories on YouTube under Terrence Rotering.

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Food for thought: You are uniquely shaped. Don’t try to be a piece of the puzzle that you’re not.

What if forgiveness isn’t about excusing someone else’s actions, reconciling with them, or pretending the past never happened—but simply getting them out of your head?

In this episode of Thought Atlas, I sit down with Katharine Giovanni, an author, speaker, and practical forgiveness educator who has spent decades teaching people how to approach forgiveness in a practical way.

Katharine’s perspective comes from a deeply personal place. She describes growing up in a dysfunctional household with two alcoholic parents, attempting suicide in eighth grade, overcoming breast cancer, and maintaining more than three decades of sobriety. She says her life has given her “more than enough” people and experiences to forgive.

Her central idea is deceptively simple: you forgive for yourself, not for the other person.

Katharine explains why forgiveness doesn’t mean the other person was right, that you were wrong, or that you need to rebuild a relationship. You can forgive someone while maintaining boundaries, refusing contact, and continuing with your own life.

She describes forgiveness as a way of reclaiming mental and emotional space. When anger and resentment occupy our attention, she argues, they can prevent us from focusing on relationships, health, opportunities, and the other parts of life that matter.

Katharine then walks us through the practical forgiveness method she developed. Rather than starting with the person who hurt you most, she recommends making a list of people and experiences you feel you need to forgive, rating them from 1 to 10, and beginning with the easier ones before gradually working toward the harder ones.

She explains how she uses visualization, speaking to the person in her imagination, expressing what was left unsaid, and then repeating a forgiveness statement. She also discusses adapting the exercise for people who find visualization difficult.

For particularly painful memories, Katharine describes “pulling apart” the memory—breaking it into individual people, places, objects, and circumstances and working through them gradually. She emphasizes that this process is a marathon rather than a sprint.

We also explore shame and self-forgiveness. Katharine argues that forgiving ourselves can be especially difficult and encourages people to include themselves on their forgiveness list.

The conversation then turns to intuition. Katharine describes intuition as something she believes everyone possesses and encourages listeners to pay attention when names, memories, or ideas unexpectedly come to mind.

We also discuss whether forgiveness can have implications beyond the individual. Katharine imagines what might happen if people learned to release even the smaller sources of anger they carry toward everyday situations, public events, politicians, sports teams, and other frustrations.

Ultimately, Katharine’s message is not that what happened to you was acceptable. It is that you don’t have to keep allowing the memory and emotional charge of what happened to occupy your mind.

As she puts it, forgiveness means getting the person “out of your head” so you can live your own life.

Listeners can learn more about Katharine, her work, and her books by visiting her website: KatharineGiovanni.com.

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Food for thought: “Peace is possible.”

What if healing doesn’t mean erasing the past, but changing our relationship with it?

In this episode of Thought Atlas, I sit down with Jacob Modak, a holistic health practitioner, trauma recovery coach, and founder of the Trauma Healed Online Coaching Program. Jacob’s work grew out of his own long healing journey and his desire to help people work through what he describes as unresolved trauma patterns in a holistic way.

Jacob explains that his awareness of his own struggles began around the age of 14, when he became conscious of the chaos around him and realized that he didn’t feel the way he wanted to feel. That question—“Why?”—eventually led him into a deeper exploration of emotional patterns, anxiety, depression, and what he calls the “language of healthy energy.”

We explore what healing means to Jacob and why he believes the first step is understanding the nature of what needs to be healed. He describes trauma, in his framework, as a painful memory that has not yet been fully understood and integrated into a coherent narrative.

One of the most striking metaphors he shares is that of a beautiful statue covered in mud. The mud represents the residue of traumatic experiences, while the statue represents what Jacob believes is the deeper truth of who we are. The statue doesn’t stop being beautiful simply because it has been covered.

From there, we discuss the process of bringing painful memories into consciousness with love, understanding, and compassion rather than continuing to push them away.

Jacob also explains his belief that trauma is not the definition of who we are. Drawing on spiritual ideas and Carl Jung’s concept of individuation, he describes healing as reconnecting with what he considers the loving, soulful part of ourselves.

We explore the idea of the wounded inner child, re-parenting, and what Jacob describes as allowing the “river of love” to flow again. He explains why, in his view, the goal isn’t to pretend painful experiences never happened, but to release the emotional charge attached to them while retaining the lessons they taught us.

Another important part of the conversation is Jacob’s view that healing is not the point—it is the passageway to the point. For him, the point is being able to “dance with life in joy”: enjoying life, spending time with people we love, and being able to move forward without constantly being pulled back into old pain.

We also discuss the relationship between professional knowledge and lived experience. Jacob believes technical knowledge can provide useful tools and structure, but lived experience allows a practitioner to connect with another person in a deeper way. He argues that the two work best together: technique without genuine understanding can feel empty, while compassion without technique may make the process slower.

Near the end, Jacob returns to the philosophy of Kintsugi—the Japanese art of repairing broken pottery with seams of gold. He uses it as a metaphor for healing: we don’t erase the broken pieces or pretend they never existed. Instead, we retain the lessons and the unique history while letting go of the pain and emotional charge.

Listeners who want to learn more about Jacob and his coaching programs can connect with him through his website, JacobModak.com. He also shares free coaching material through his YouTube channel, Jacob Modak Coaching, and says his Instagram is @JacobModak.

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Food for thought: Healing isn’t the point. It’s the passageway to the point—which is to dance with life in joy.

What enables someone to keep moving forward after experiencing unimaginable loss?

In this episode of Thought Atlas, I sit down with Andy Campbell, an author, speaker, cancer survivor, and resilience advocate who has endured profound hardship and now works to help others build resilience through difficult and tragic circumstances.

Andy shares how his understanding of resilience has evolved through the challenges he has experienced. Rather than seeing resilience as something that suddenly appears when tragedy strikes, he believes it can be built through the smaller setbacks and difficulties we encounter throughout life. Each challenge, he says, can give us an opportunity to learn and develop beliefs that may help us face what comes next.

One of Andy’s core beliefs is that every challenge contains an opportunity—a “chewy nougat” at the center of the experience. He explains the metaphor through the idea of an American candy: you have to work through the rest of the candy to reach the sweet center.

For Andy, this isn’t about pretending tragedy is good or diminishing pain. He emphasizes that devastating experiences—including the loss of a child, serious illness, or sexual assault—should not be explained away as having happened for some predetermined reason. Instead, he believes that as human beings work through painful circumstances, they may eventually find something within those experiences that can help them continue living.

Andy shares how watching his mother die over 11 years from three different bouts of cancer influenced the way he approached his own cancer diagnosis. He says that watching her taught him not only about dying, but about how to live—and that remembering how she handled difficult moments became a source of strength during his own darkest times.

We then explore hope and meaning, drawing on Viktor Frankl’s Man’s Search for Meaning. Andy explains why he believes hope can become fragile when it is attached to a specific date, event, treatment, or outcome. For him, meaning is different: it gives us something greater to live for, something that can remain even when a particular hope fails.

During his own cancer treatment, Andy says his meaning was surviving to be with his family. After the devastating loss of his youngest child to suicide, that meaning became even clearer: continuing to live for his remaining family.

The conversation also examines decision-making. Andy describes one of his core beliefs as a way of separating a difficult decision from the potentially difficult consequences of making it. He believes our minds can magnify possible negative outcomes, making a clear decision feel harder than it actually is.

He discusses the tension between what he calls the loud voice in our heads and the “still, small voice,” and how learning to distinguish fear from clearer reasoning has helped him make better decisions.

Near the end, Andy shares the core belief he would most want someone facing the darkest chapter of their life to carry with them:

Always Fall Forward.

He explains that tragedy can metaphorically knock us to the ground and disorient us. We may not be ready to immediately move forward, but we can begin by getting our eyes pointed forward again—toward the direction, goals, and things that matter.

Listeners who want to connect with Andy, have a conversation with him, or learn more about his work can visit AskAndyCampbell.com and look for the Resilience Path link, which Andy specifically gives at the end of the interview.

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Food for thought: “You can persevere. Do not quit. Continue forward, even when you don’t see a path.”

What if you don’t have to become someone completely new to transform your life? What if the deeper work is remembering who you already are?

In this episode of Thought Atlas, I sit down with Dr. Victoria Rader, a transformational teacher, author, and founder of YU2SHINE. Her work brings together spirituality, personal development, and what she calls quantum personal development, with a strong emphasis on faith, surrender, love, and discovering our highest potential.

Victoria shares how growing up in the former Soviet Union shaped her understanding of inner freedom. Although she lived in an environment where external freedom was limited, she says she learned to create a “sacred, safe harbor” within herself—a place she could return to regardless of what was happening around her.

She also tells the remarkable story of how one daily practice of prayer and alignment eventually led to her work becoming part of Lunar Legacy, a book whose physical copy was sent to the moon as part of a project she describes as preserving humanity’s legacy. She also shares that she recently received a Guinness World Record after participating with 140 other authors in a simultaneous signing of the same book.

But the heart of our conversation is transformation.

Victoria describes transformation not as becoming someone else, but as remembering who we truly are. She discusses self-forgiveness, purpose, God’s love, and the tendency to make our worth dependent on achievements, money, careers, degrees, or other external measures.

We explore her framework of “quantum personal development,” which she describes as developing through surrender to love and mastery of universal laws. She explains why she believes people sometimes struggle when they work against these principles rather than with them.

Faith is another central theme. Victoria explains how surrendering outcomes to God has changed the way she relates to both success and failure. For her, this creates a form of freedom where you can do your best without allowing the result to determine your worth.

We also discuss lasting transformation. Victoria argues that change isn’t something you accomplish once and then forget about—it must be maintained and continually expanded. She compares emotional and spiritual growth to everyday practices like showering and brushing your teeth: lasting change requires ongoing practice.

Then we explore her definition of love: L-O-V-E, “Life Originating Vibrant Emotion.” Victoria explains why she sees love as a creative principle and describes a practice of receiving God’s love and allowing it to flow through you toward your family, difficult situations, and even people who have hurt you.

The conversation also examines inner freedom, fear, pain, suffering, technology, self-awareness, belonging, and the influence of popular culture. Victoria encourages people to think for themselves rather than simply following whatever happens to be trending.

Finally, we explore abundance and the belief that what we already have can be “more than enough.” Victoria shares a deeply personal story from 1997, when she was financially and emotionally overwhelmed after the birth of her first daughter. During prayer, she says she received the thought: “What you have is more than enough for you.” That belief became a powerful mental shift in her life.

Listeners can connect with Victoria through Instagram at @Vika_Rader, explore her journals at MeSeries.love, learn more about her work at YU2SHINE, or access her free Quantum Leap eBook at MyGiftOffer.com. She also mentions FreeMe.group, which takes listeners to her Facebook group.

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Food for thought: “Just surrender to love.”

What if the products we use every day were designed around the realities of human life—not an imaginary “ideal” user?

In this episode of Thought Atlas, I sit down with Douglas Katz, a West Point graduate, disabled Army veteran, inventor, and entrepreneur whose journey has taken him from the U.S. Army and the private sector into adaptive product design.

Douglas grew up in Michigan, attended West Point from 1989 to 1993, and was commissioned into the U.S. Army as an artillery officer. After leaving the Army as a captain in 1998, he worked across several industries, including rail casting, telecommunications, and lending, where he spent roughly 25 years.

Around 2021–2022, physical issues connected to his military service, contact sports, and years of wear on his joints were increasingly affecting his everyday life. His shoulder was severely damaged, he had arthritis and carpal tunnel, and one of his passions—cooking—was becoming difficult.

So Douglas built something for himself.

Using a circular saw blade, he created a knife in his garage designed to help him overcome his limitations in the kitchen. That invention became NULU, an adaptive kitchen knife. What began as a personal solution eventually revealed a much broader opportunity: other people were experiencing similar difficulties with everyday products.

That becomes the starting point for a much bigger conversation about inclusive design, disability, aging, independence, and dignity.

Douglas explains why he believes designers often build around an assumed “ideal” user and why designing for people with different physical abilities can lead to products that are useful for a much broader population.

We explore the difference between accommodation and independence. For Douglas, the goal isn’t simply to make allowances for someone’s limitations. It’s to create tools that allow people to accomplish things for themselves and participate more fully in everyday life.

His experience caring for his father also gave him another perspective on the subject. Products that help people remain independent can benefit not only the individual using them, but also the people providing care.

Douglas also shares lessons from his military experience and explains how planning, problem-solving, and considering contingencies have influenced the way he approaches entrepreneurship and product development.

We discuss why he believes function should come before flash, why dignity matters in design, and why genuinely disruptive products should solve real problems rather than simply carry the label of “disruption.”

Another fascinating part of the conversation is his argument that universal design isn’t only about disability. As people age, physical abilities can naturally change. An accident, illness, reduced grip strength, or arthritis can alter what someone is able to do. Douglas believes this means inclusive design is ultimately relevant to everyone.

He also discusses the potential size of the market for products designed around these needs and why he believes manufacturers may increasingly recognize the opportunity.

Near the end, I ask Douglas what question he would want people to ask when looking at the objects they use every day.

His answer is simple:

“Can you make it better?”

He encourages us not to automatically accept inefficient designs simply because they are familiar, but to question whether something can be made more functional, efficient, and useful.

Listeners who want to connect with Douglas can reach him through his personal website, DouglasMKatz.com, where he says there is information about NULU and his other work. You can also explore his official NULU site at NULUKnives.com. Douglas says listeners are welcome to reach out to him through these channels.

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Food for thought: Get in touch with your genuine self. Figure out who you are and what you value.

What gives a human voice the power to make us feel something—even when we can’t see the person behind it?

In this episode of Thought Atlas, I sit down with Kris Keppeler, an actor, voice artist, audiobook narrator, writer, and storyteller whose career has taken her through singing, acting, narration, podcasting, and writing. She has narrated more than 50 audiobooks and continues to coach authors who want to narrate their own work.

Kris’s creative journey began with singing. After being told when she was young that she would never learn to sing, she chose not to accept that judgment. She describes the experience as teaching her persistence, the value of finding ways to learn, and the importance of not allowing someone else’s “no” to define what you’re capable of doing.

From there, our conversation explores the remarkable flexibility of the human voice.

Kris explains how changes in pitch, volume, and pacing can communicate emotion and tell a story without visual cues. We discuss what happens when she steps into radically different characters—from royalty and dragons to everyday people and even a cucumber lying in a barnyard.

For Kris, character work involves imagining the physicality and circumstances of the character and making choices that fit the story and her own perception of the world.

We then explore audiobook narration and the delicate balance between bringing an author’s written world to life while leaving room for the listener’s imagination. Kris discusses working with authors, understanding what they want for their characters, and using pacing to move listeners through a story.

One of the fascinating challenges of voice acting is that the performer may be alone in a booth, with only a microphone, a screen, and the words in front of them. Kris explains how she creates the surrounding scene in her mind and imagines what the character is experiencing so she can generate the emotional response without another actor physically present.

We also discuss how writing and performing influence each other. Kris says narrating her own stories can feel strange, while her experience with audio storytelling has encouraged her to become more expansive in her writing and explain her thoughts more fully.

Then the conversation turns toward artificial intelligence.

Kris believes that human creativity and human emotion will remain central to storytelling. For her, emotion is what we bring to stories—and what drives them.

We also explore her continuing willingness to reinvent herself. From singer and actor to narrator, podcaster, and writer, Kris believes that you should never stop learning. She describes learning as an adventure that can expand your mind, your feelings, and your view of the world.

Finally, we discuss what she hopes listeners notice the next time they hear a story. Beyond simply absorbing the message, Kris wants people to recognize the people behind it—and the enormous amount of creative work that goes into delivering a story through writing, narration, acting, or podcasting.

Kris’s food for thought is simple:

Be persistent.

Listeners can connect with Kris through her website, kriskeppeler.com, or find her on LinkedIn, X, Instagram, and Facebook. She also has a YouTube channel where she shares her podcast and funny-story narrations. Her website and social profiles are the contact routes she mentions during the conversation. (LinkedIn)

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