This morning's Epidemic Response Committee meeting heard from RBNZ, CTU, and Trade Ministers; we're summarising key points for you. Hanna speaks to sociologist Campbell Jones about the change in language during rāhui; what was once ‘unskilled’ work has become ‘essential services’. Labour’s Andrew Little tells Mary-Margaret about why the tertiary package only includes the ability to accumulate more debt, and what he makes of the claims of the group calling for a ‘Plan B’. Rachel brings an update on the State of the States. Finally, Radio Adelaide’s Zoe Kounadis shares what conversations look like in Australia about their Chief Medical Officer’s comments at our own Epidemic Response Committee, as well as the newest DC superhero: an Aboriginal character from Pilbara.