Billy and Liz discuss Ecclesiastes with Anthony Cruz, a humanist chaplain, public theologian, and trans-religious scholar. Here's more about Anthony and all the interesting work he is doing: https://www.acpantojas.org.
We also discuss Esther Perel and the idea of "the third" several times. Here's Perel's book where she discusses the idea and how it can strengthen romantic relationships.
Many thanks to Charlie Kluttz for writing our theme song and musical transitions!
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