Eight years ago, a therapist handed us a tool.

Five questions. Structured. Specific.

Rules about what you could say, how you said it, and what you weren't allowed to respond to until the next day. It felt rigid — because it was built for people who could barely look at each other.

That was us.

This is Part 2 of our Daily Temperature Reading series and it shows you both versions: the original framework we were handed, and what it's become after nearly a decade of actually using it every single night.

Even when we were mad.

Even when we were tired.

Even when one of us was answering in the fewest words legally allowed.

What you're hearing in this episode is real. Recorded late, kids finally quiet, Travis fresh from jiujitsu, Jenn with bug bites and sourdough on her mind. We go through our struggles, our gratitude, what we'd do differently and we close the way we always close.

It's not perfect. It's a Tuesday. But it might show you something about what yours could look like.