In this final piece of the conversation, Paul McDonald talks with his father, W. Paul McDonald, about transitioning in fatherhood as your children get older. In any close relationship, forgiveness must be given and received, almost like breathing. Paul offers a challenge to the listeners to create audio ebenzers with the people who are closest to you over the course of the holidays and into the new year. If you have any comments, suggestions, or feedback, email us at [email protected].