What happens when leaders take off the armour and tell the stories behind the title?

In this special World Pharmacists Day conversation, Ore sits down with Dr. Danielle Paes for an honest and deeply personal discussion about what leadership really looks like behind the scenes.

We talk about the experiences we don’t always share publicly — the difficult moments, the pressures and expectations that come with leadership, experiences of being treated unfairly, and the lessons that shape us along the way.

We talk about vulnerability and wellbeing.

What does it cost us when we’re constantly showing up for everyone else? How do we recognise when we’re not okay? And what does it look like to give ourselves the same care, compassion and grace that we so readily offer to others?

This is a conversation about the human beings behind the leadership roles — the stories we carry, the things we learn, and the importance of taking better care of ourselves while we lead.

🎙️ A conversation about leadership beyond the title.

Released on World Pharmacists Day in celebration of the people behind the profession.