I am so excited to bring you this great interview with Emma Zeck, a writer, photographer, artist and abuse survivor turned narcissist recovery counsellor. I found her on Instagram after I had already done the lions share of my own toxic family system abuse recovery work, and the way she is able to sum out very subtle and difficult to explain abuse concepts in beautiful, positive and supportive ways, really struck me as empowering. In this episode, we talk about subtler forms of gas-lighting, the importance of finding the right therapist and Emma lists what to look out for if you think you are being psychologically abused and what you can do to start to recover.