Leslie and Stephen Shaw rejoin Billy on the SWAB Podcast for a compelling update on UAPs and the extraterrestrial phenomenon. Following the success of a highly praised Amazon Prime documentary, the Shaws — authors of Who They Are and What They’re Up To — return to share their latest research, historical insights, and new developments that have emerged over the past year.

Widely regarded as leaders in the field of UAP and extraterrestrial research, Leslie and Stephen sit at the very top of the conversation. If you’re fascinated by UAPs, extraterrestrials, and what may lie beyond our understanding, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.