Jeff & Jer reveal a new and broad long-term study into paranormal accounts of all kinds that they will be spearheading with Dr. Tyler Kokjohn and Dr. Kim Cooper. Then, they tackle some of the weightier questions about ufology, consciousness, spirituality, and free will vs. destiny.

This episode is a lesson in contrasts. Which is deeper, more interesting, and speaks to a reality most can't fathom: ufologists narrating experiencer stories at a UFO conference or the actual story of an experiencer in the audience? Kelly Johnson is an experiencer who traveled a very long distance to listen to professional ufologists at the 2011 Exeter UFO Festival in New Hampshire. Little did she know that what she would hear onstage wouldn't reflect the reality she lives. This is some of her spectacular life story contrasted with Jer's deflating road trip audio, which features guests John Flynn, Tina Sena, and Tim Binnall. This is what paranormal reality sounds like when it's not edited for expectations.

''Lobo'' from the Project Archivist podcast joins us for a frank discussion about his extraordinary experiences. This could very well be the first case of a person with all outlier phenomena attached to them. Two words: just listen.

The pseudonymous Roejen from Project Archivist joins us to talk about his thoughts on the paranormal and share his own paranormal experiences. Then, Jeff & Jer go deep into why certain aspects of how experiencers feel about their role as experiencers are hard to articulate and might be misinterpretations of the situation. Be sure to check out the Project Archivist podcast here: www.projectarchivist.com

Mirage Men author Mark Pilkington joins us to explore his book and some of the real life characters and situations that have shaped the mythos of ufology. Mark is also a crop circle maker, so we go down that road as well. This one is as straightforwardly sane as it is weird and fascinating! But first... Jeff tells of two days he'll not soon forget. Namely, the last two. His story is not paranormal but it is hysterical and trust us, that will be enough.

Jason Offutt returns to talk about his disenchantment with the ghost hunting scene and explore some of the quirkier aspects of various phenomena from hauntings to shadow people to black eyed kids.

Frank Kimbler believes he may have found some alien wreckage debris in the sands of Roswell. And he may be right! Frank discusses the science involved in trying to figure out the origin of this mysterious metal. But first,, Jeff & Jer make a huge announcement about their new call-in show, Paratopia Live! Sundays will never be the same!

Rachel Baker of the ghost research outfit MRIPA returns to discuss her work and her purpose in the ghost biz, but what she reveals has very little to do with ghosts and ultimately leads into the type of rare and pivotal episode that has come to define Paratopia.Learn more about Rachel at www.mripa.net

Jeff & Jer explore the often overlooked details of their experiences, asking new questions, starting with: what does it mean to be an adult if that is stripped away and one feels like a child in the face of the enigma?

''Marian Apparitions Are Real!'' author Kevin Cook joins Jeff & Jer to talk about mass visions of the Virgin Mary from around the world. To follow along this episode with the photos we'll be talking about, and to learn more about Kevin and his book, please visit: www.marianapparitionsarereal.com