During the Perl Toolchain Summit 2025 in Leipzig, we interviewed the MetaCPAN team about the history of the project, how it's managed and where it's going to.

The next version of Perl is going to be v5.42.0. Or maybe 42.0? Listen to Perl leaders arguing about what version numbers represent, and what it means to change one. (This is part two of a longer conversation started in the previous episode.)

For this episode, we assembled a cast of Perl leaders, and talked about Perl versions. At the end of the scheduled time, we hadn't started discussing the planned controversial topic, so we kept talking, and split the episode in two parts. To be continued...

This episode was an experiment: how hard can it be to record a podcast? Find a topic (the new Perl logo), a few people who have something to say about it, schedule a meeting, hit record, and presto, you are now a podcaster. And because it was an experiment, we numbered it 0.