The Underground Sessions Podcast

In this compelling episode, Pastor Bob sits down with Dr. Todd Hall from Biola University’s Rosemead School of Psychology to explore the quiet epidemic behind much of our cultural unrest: disconnection. Drawing from his book The Connected Life, Dr. Hall unpacks the theory of relational spirituality: how our early relationships shape not only how we relate to others, but how we relate to God.

Together, they examine the rising loneliness in our culture, the impact of attachment theory on spiritual formation, and the common but misguided routes many Christians take in pursuit of growth. What emerges is a timely challenge for church leaders and communities: to rethink discipleship not as information transfer, but as relational transformation.

If you've ever wondered why some people "know God" yet struggle to trust Him, or why vulnerability feels like a risk in Christian community; this conversation is for you.

More on Todd and his new book:
https://www.connectedlifebook.com/

Welcome back to the Underground Sessions Podcast! In this episode, Pastor Bob is joined by Philip Dearborn, President of the Association of Biblical Higher Education (ABHE). They have an engaging discussion covering the history of education, the current landscape of higher education as well as some helpful advice as you are considering college. Join as we discuss this very important topic! Like and subscribe if you are watching us on YouTube; follow us if you are listening on Apple Podcasts. 
 
ABHE Website: https://www.abhe.org/

In this episode Bob is joined by Claudia Tamas, a Colson Fellow and healthcare professional. Claudia has done extensive research on the transgender movement. Our discussion offers the history, definitions and implications of the current transgender conversation. We also frame a response from a Christian worldview perspective. We hope this episode equips you to engage your skeptical friends!

In this episode, Pastor Bob is joined by Pastor Dave for a stimulating discussion with Dr. Alfonse Javed. Our focus is Islam. We cover questions like: what do Muslims believe? How do we share Christ with our Muslim neighbors? And, what are some issues to be aware of? As always, we seek to "equip the saints to engage the skeptics." Enjoy the conversation!

Resources: 

• Hearts for Muslims: https://www.heartformuslims.com/
• Dr. Javed's book, "The Muslim Next Door": https://a.co/d/eysYQlo

March is Disability Awareness Month, and we’re excited to bring you a special episode for the occasion. Bob Erbig is joined by his wife, Amanda, along with Rob and Tammy Mittuch, as they share their experiences as parents of children with disabilities. Together, they discuss the challenges, joys, and the profound ways God has worked in their lives through their parenting journey. We hope this heartfelt conversation encourages and inspires you.

In this episode, Pastor Bob chats with Adrienne Livingston from World Venture. Adrienne is one of our supported world partners and she specialized in the topic of human sex trafficking. We discuss this influence of the pornography industry on sex trafficking and what we can do to combat it. This episode contains necessary but sensitive content—listener discretion advised. We hope you benefit from this important conversation.

In this episode, Pastor Bob sits down with Neil Shenvi, author of the book, Critical Dilemma. Neil was a speaker at our 2025 Contend Conference, when this episode was recorded. We discuss the topic of "Critical Theory and Social Justice Ideology," which Neil has extensively researched. If you are confused about the term critical theory and how it impacts popular culture—this episode is for you! 

Neil blogs at his website: shenviapologetics.com. He also write a book on apologetics entitled, "Why Believe?" 

In this episode of the Underground Session podcast Pastor Bob Erbig is joined by a co-host, Delia Kang, as they interview the one and only, Alisa Childers. This episode was filmed during our 2025 Contend Conference. Bob and Delia ask Alisa questions of the deconstruction movement. If you are wrestling with deconstruction, or know someone who is, this is the episode for you. We hope the content benefits you! 

For more on Alisa, visit her website:
https://alisachilders.com/

In this episode, Pastor Bob talks with Krista Bontrager and Monique Duson from the Center for Biblical Unity. This ministry is a "leading Christian voice on issues related to race, justice, unity and the impact of the Critical Social Theories coming into the church and society." Our discussion focuses on their new book, Walking In Unity, which outlines a better way forward for race relations in the church and society.

You can connect with Krista and Monique at their website: https://www.centerforbiblicalunity.com/

You can order "Walking In Unity" here: https://a.co/d/aynW7Sj

This episode features an interview with Katy Faust. She founded and leads “Them Before Us,” an organization committed to advocating the rights of children. 

She recently edited and released the book, “Pro Child Politics,” which is the subject of our interview. What does it look like to put children first in every area of public policy? How should that influence our voting patterns. 

Join us for this informative and provocative discussion. 

Them Before Us: https://thembeforeus.com/

Order "Pro Child Politics": https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Child-Politics-Cultural-Economic-National/dp/B0D6LT3ZB3/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=1Z59S8WIIYGOU&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.dLIIpMgrW7jvDHFow3zZhAJ2g_axs6-cXGpABJpIHe-jYQFk1fVmUSbCfFqymj-6pVIFPi72aHVNbQ5YMwo9Xp4HLV7nvZUUCMnfgSTosBVvnCmlio-ZR9X1AAruC8OhqV81W5yOqDjqduzUIhc6Zqh0weuZP3Cq35i4hh1n_qOhMoUmzhIH66tuFp2Qr4oi5LGUub3-6aTe5krF9CjBag.p8A9XC1xnmur5tCviPLHyqNshEpjgiyFglu3GyAj-Zc&dib_tag=se&keywords=pro+child+politics&qid=1729259955&sprefix=pro+child+politics%2Caps%2C120&sr=8-1