In this engaging podcast episode, they explore unconventional pathways into project management, highlighting how diverse backgrounds such as the culinary arts and volunteer coordination contribute to valuable project management skills. They emphasize the importance of distinguishing between technical and power skills, particularly in fields where engineering or IT expertise may dominate. Through personal anecdotes and professional insights, they advocate for the inclusion of project management education at an early stage and underscore the role of self-awareness in career development. The conversation champions collaboration, adaptability, and the importance of communication in managing complex projects effectively.