Is there really a shadow government, and what is it? Zachary Treitz and Christian Hansen, two incredible journalists, join us today to discuss the workings behind a shadow government. We’ll discuss how the investigation came about that led to their Octopus series on Netflix, Ghislaine Maxwell’s father, the unsolved death of Danny Casolaro, the cover-up of the murder, and other interesting topics. WELCOME TO CAMP! 🏕️

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Timestamps

0:00 Intro

1:08 Meet Zach and Christian

3:18 Beginning The Investigation

9:54 The Iran Contra Affair

22:22 Accusations of Being a Limited Hangout

28:00 Ghislaine Maxwell's Father

38:27 Ari-Ben Menashe

50:22 The Unsolved Death of Danny Casolaro

57:30 Suspects of The Murder

1:02:10 Are Hitmen Real?

1:06:25 Covering Up The Murder

1:10:15 Feeling Threatened While Investigating

1:20:38 New Evidence + Gerald Bull’s Supergun

1:37:04 Spin Off Series? + The Death of Jolly West