One of the most experienced referees in the National Rugby League, Ashley Klein joins the podcast this week. Ashley has done it all in rugby league officiating, Grand Finals in both the NRL and Super League, Challenge Cup Finals, World Cup Finals and State of Origin. His attitude and insight into officiating is one to be listened to.

Belinda Sharpe (Sleeman) made rugby league history by becoming the first female official in the National Rugby League. Belinda tells her story about starting refereeing in Rockhampton and how the sport has taken her to places she never imagined. She also talks about the positive experiences she has had working in a male dominated sport.

Tim Roby is one of the NRL's most unique referees. In this episode Tim shares his journey from making the grade in the English Super League and the embarking on a career in Australia. A very intelligent man, who has a great insight into the game of rugby league and how the culture of the sport differs between the hemispheres.

NRL referee Jon Stone joins the show and shares his story about balancing a career in the NSW Police Force and refereeing in the National Rugby League. Jon also talks about how a significant amount of resilience was required to overcome two injuries that prevented him debuting for over twelve months.

Gerard Sutton tells his story about moving from country NSW to become one of the game's most credentialed officials. Sutton describes the difference between sacrifice and choice and how the game of rugby league has enabled him to discover his family his on the Western Front in France.

Former NRL player and Kiwi representative Henry Perenara joins me whilst on tour together in Papua New Guinea. Henry shares his experiences of transitioning from a first grade player to a test match referee. In this podcast, Henry explains the correlations he has made between to two levels of involvement and how there is a pathway for young New Zealand officials.

Tom joins me from the West Coast of the USA for this episode. With in excess of 450 games in the United States, Tom explains the challenges and journey he has experienced so far in his attempt to umpire Major League Baseball.

Officiating in one of the world's most watched competitions, Chris Kavanagh and John Brooks share their insights in refereeing elite football. Having made his EPL debut in the 2017, Chris delves into the intricacies involved in football refereeing on the biggest stage whilst John shares his story about officiating in over 100 EPL games as an assistant refereeing and his experiences in an FA Cup final and Champions League games.

Following the successful inaugural season of Suncorp Super Netball, Grand Final and Commonwealth Games netball umpire, Michelle Phippard joins the podcast. From first hitting the courts in Victoria to one of the elite level umpire in the world, Phippard tells of her experiences in the international game, the importance of remembering why people begin umpiring and how she has balanced life as an international lawyer, mother and elite netball umpire.

This very special podcast is with Graeme Atkins, NRL premiership winner and player with the Parramatta Eels and Eastern Suburbs Roosters. As my father, Graeme shares some of the stories from his playing career and the relationship he had with referees as well as the influence the likes of Jack Gibson, Ray Price and Steve Edge had on match officials. He also talks about the role parents play in supporting their child throughout their refereeing career.