At The Second Voice, we explore the inner conversations leaders rarely say out loud. In this episode we ask "What if the voice inside your head isn’t just shaping you, but shaping your children too?" Today, we explore how the self-talk we carry as leaders and mothers becomes the invisible inheritance passed to the next generation. Krystal Jugarap shares the raw truth about leading, doubting, and parenting when the second voice is always present.

Hosted by Luisa Hogan, leadership resilience strategist and founder of Vermelho Consulting.Luisa works with founders, executives, and senior leaders who carry real responsibility and want to lead with steadiness, clarity, and self-trust under pressure.Her work focuses on nervous system regulation, leadership identity, and the inner dialogue that shapes how leaders show up when things are hard.

Connect with Krystal 

https://www.krystaljugarap.com

https://www.empoweredbywmn.com

Instagram: @iamkrystalj @empoweredbywmn @bookofbijoux

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krystaljugarap

Work With Luisa

If this episode sparked reflection, here are ways to go deeper with Luisa:

-Leadership resilience workshops and advisory

-Keynotes and curated live experiences

-The Steady Leadership framework and private sessions

Learn more at: www.vermelho.com.au

A Note From Whisper & Thread

The Second Voice is proudly supported by Whisper & Thread.

Whisper & Thread creates intimate apparel embroidered with quiet, internal messages designed to interrupt negative self-talk.

Each piece carries a reminder on the inside. Not performative. Not loud. Just for you.

Because leadership self-talk does not start in the boardroom.

And confidence is built in the moments no one sees.

Explore Whisper & Thread at: whisperandthread.com

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