What is a 'horror' film? How do you define what horrific means, or what the style is or tropes? What characters make up a horror movie? Can a horror movie be a war film, or visa-versa? How does comedy work into it, if it can? Have certain characters dated over time? And what about that Cloverfield monster tickles Andrew so much? Is tickles the right word?

This may seem like a far-reaching and broad topic, but on The Wages of Cinema we dare to look at such a topic in 45 minutes and see what makes a horror movie a horror movie - notably a good one - and this makes for a free-ranging, almost philosophical discussion. Plus, Andrew makes light of 5 'types' based on a YouTube series called the Idea channel.

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(clip from Apocalypse Now, song is Syd Valentine)

So, we want to talk to you today about ducts. And children. Do your ducts have children in them? No wait, let's start over.

Simple enough: Andrew watched Terry Gilliam's take on Orwell, Kafka and nightmares of the modern world, and Jack watched the adaptation of John Wyndham's 'The Midwich Cuckoo's'.

1) Terry Gilliam's BRAZIL (1985)

2) Wolf Rilla's VILLAGE OF THE DAMNED (1960)

So, let's get back to what we love talking about - MOVICINEFILMOGRAPHIA! Sorry, we sometimes do make up words...

First, the guys start off with a discussion on the 3rd (and final) Star Wars trailer for Episode 7, and other episodes and their special editions. Then it's time for the 2 minute movie mile, where Jack and Andrew talk about the films they've seen in the past two weeks - some new releases from acclaimed/award-winning auteurs, horror movies that are obscure and well-regarded (and not), plus Andrew does a block of films directed by Luis Bunuel, and Jack looks at things wide-ranging as the final(?) Studio Ghibli feature and Roger Waters' Wall concert film.

2MMM starts at 11 minutes in:

1) CRIMSON PEAK (2015)

2) THE EXTERMINATING ANGEL (1962)

3) WHEN MARNIE WAS THERE (2015)

4) VIRIDIANA (1961)

5) THE DOUBLE LIFE OF VERONIQUE (1991)

6) THE DISCREET CHARM OF THE BOURGEOISIE (1972)

7) THE NAME OF THE ROSE (1986)

8) THAT OBSCURE OBJECT OF DESIRE (1977)

9) THE WALK (2015)

10) SINGLE WHITE FEMALE (1992)

11) ROGER WATERS THE WALL (2015)

12) SOMETHING EVIL (1972)

13) CHILDREN OF THE DAMNED (1963)

14) DEAD SILENCE (2007)

15) A BUCKET OF BLOOD (1959)

16) BAGHEAD (2008)

Songs: Duke Ellington "Jubilee Stomp" and Iron Maiden "Children of the Damned" (live)

Local Vocal is happy to present our first conversation with a published author! This being Matthew Catania, who's first novel, THE DOLOROUS ADVENTURE OF BROTHER BANENOSE, has been published and is now available via Booktrope publishing.

Listen as we talk with Matthew (who you may have previously heard on Episode 13)about the influence of The Name of the Rose and Rocky & Bullwinkle, Monty Python, the joys of absurdity in writing, researching friars and monks (in books, not through time travel in person), action figure maintenance, making movies with friends (yes, he made a short film as well), and what it means to draw your own first illustrations for a first book.

Be sure to check out Mr. Catania on his various social media - twitter.com/MatttheCatania and facebook.com/MatttheCatania as well as his blog at www.matthecatania.wordpress.com - and you can also find him on The Robot's Voice and io9 as a guest contributor.

What makes a horror movie 'overrated'? Or any movie, for that matter? Expectations? Hype? The general audience consensus seems to be a big part of it. Also, what happens when years pass after watching a movie, and you feel different about it and it may not hold up well over time. On this episode, Jack and Andrew discuss a group of horror movies - from classic Universal to Italian Giallo and the slasher movies that made the 80's - and taking down some big sacred cows is the name of the game in this talk. Who will go on the defensive and make the most convincing points?

Do you agree? Dsagree? Want to see us dismembered? (Don't actually do this, we're too fragile and tender-skinned). Please send us an email to [email protected] or comment on the FB page www.facebook.com/wagesofcinema

(Music from themes to Suspiria, Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street)

This week on this episode of 'The List', Jack and Andrew ask some important questions of their movies. Such as: are all British children creepy? Is Klaus Kinski the most intense actor in the history of cinema? What does sex have to do with the Governess Miss Giddens and the little boy Miles? Did these native people in South America work for scale? What does it mean to really frighten and to really inspire some sense of awe? Also, Herzog, tell us how you REALLY feel about the jungle. Hmm?

Jack Clayton's THE INNOCENTS (1961)

Werner Herzog's FITZCARRALDO (1982)

(Theme song from The Innoncents and Caruso opera music featured)

LOTS of horror talked here, in large part by Jack, and ranging from new releases to classics (Karloff, Corman, Michael Powell and John Landis on this one) and obscurities by well-known directors, plus two documentaries and an entry from the good ol' folks from Tromaville, New Jersey.

(Oh, and there's Belle de Jour as well - not a horror movie, but what can you do, it was in the block!)

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1) AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON (1981)

2) ATTACK OF THE PUPPET PEOPLE (1957)

3) PEEPING TOM (1960)

4) GOODNIGHT MOMMY (2015)

5) BELLE DE JOUR (1967)

6) THE HUNGER (1983)

7) THE CARD PLAYER (2004)

8) TWIXT (2011)

9) ROGER CORMAN'S FRANKENSTEIN UNBOUND (1990)

10) NIGHTMARES IN RED, WHITE AND BLUE (2009)

11) THE OLD DARK HOUSE (1932)

12) DARK SKIES (2013)

13) LOST SOUL: THE DOOMED JOURNEY OF RICHARD STANLEY'S ISLAND OF DR. MOREAU (2015)

14) POULTRYGEIST: NIGHT OF THE LIVING CHICKEN (2006)

15) A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET (1984)

Song: Bauhaus' "Bela Lugosi's Dead" from 'The Hunger' (fair use)

Jack and Andrew first talk about the fact that this is Columbus Day (that this was recorded on) and why there aren't more movies about this Columbus guy, then a brief discussion about a recent screening of Rifftrax's MIAMI CONNECTION (which they previously saw for 2MMM). Then on to the movies, with largely new titles and two action classics from John Woo. Stay tuned for part 2, with a block of HORROR MOVIES (It is October, duh).

Starting at 08:46: THE MARTIAN - HARD BOILED - 99 HOMES - A BETTER TOMORROW - BRIDGE OF SPIES - IT'S ALIVE - BLACK MASS

And now for part 2 of the continuing series with THE REPRESENTATIVES – now with the man behind the page of all the plays, STAN RICHARDSON.

Who is Stan? How does he write so many plays – and get them produced – each year? How did he meet and become a pupil of Edward Albee? Jack talks with Stan about this and more; the effects of politics and current events on plays; Twin Peaks and serial killers; why Missouri is called the ‘Show Me’ state; working with Matt Steiner (our guest on episode 2); and, of course, New York, New York vs Houston, Texas.

All that and so much more in this wonderful conversation about the process of being, and challenging the limitations of what can be done, in the theater as an independent creator.

You can follow Mr. Richardson on Twitter: www.twitter.com/StanRichardson - and follow The Representatives @the_reps_NYC and last, but not least, all of the details on the new production premiering October 21st in New York city, VERITAS, as well as all of the past plays produced, can be found at www.therepresentatives.org

(Clip from ‘Dead Black Temp’ production, December 2014)

Music: On the Cool Side

If you heard episode 2 of the Local Vocal series with actor and director Matt Steiner, then you heard about the theater group THE REPRESENTATIVES. To say their productions are unconventional is putting it lightly, as the masterminds behind the group, Steiner and playwright/director/producer Stan Richardson, create three productions (at least) a year, often combining multi-media – film and special audio techniques – and involve and challenge audiences whenever they perform. But now with VERITAS, their first production that is available for the general public, they bring a little-known but explosive story from 1920 involving Harvard and men caught in a controversy that will change their lives.

Jack talks with Steiner once again with Stan also on mic as they talk about this new play, how it came to be produced, it’s background, and what it means to have a cast that expands on what is (and isn’t) known about the true case (including one cast member that is deaf). This is also a special Local Vocal as it’s a two-parter: listen to this short interview about this new play, and tune in to the second part for a longer, 80 minute interview with Richardson about life and work as a playwright for the Reps.

For details on how to purchase tickets for the show, visit their website at www.therepresentatives.org – you can also find them online:

https://twitter.com/the_reps_nyc

https://www.facebook.com/therepresentativespresent?fref=ts

https://www.facebook.com/Veritas-A-Play-by-Stan-Richardson-132828713397741/timeline/

Music: "On the Cool Side" (public domain song)

Photo by Jan Wandrag