The Waiting List Podcast

By Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum, Lung Lung Thun

What's The Waiting List Podcast about?

The Waiting List Podcast is hosted by three watch geeks: Jaclyn Li, Daniel Sum and Lung Lung Thun. We can‘t say we are the most knowledgeable collectors but one thing we do have is a passion to grow the watch community and bring positive vibes! Chill out while we discuss trending topics within the watch industry, interview collectors and have a bit of fun! Reach out to us via email at [email protected] and also our Instagram page @thewaitinglistpodcast.

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The Waiting List Podcast episodes:

05.23.2024
#203- "I just love gifting it puts a smile on my face"-Cameron Steiner, Collector and Host of Collectors Gene Radio
In this episode we welcome back Cameron @cameronrosssteiner , host of Collectors Gene Radio. We discuss the importance of gifting, what the guests on his podcast are collecting and what watches he will be wearing the most in the near...
05.16.2024
#202- Watches and Wonders 2024 -Dan, Jac, Lung
The title explains it all. Enjoy!
05.09.2024
#Bonus Episode- ONLY WATCH 2024 -Dan, Jac, Lung
Heres an extra episode just in time for Only Watch. Which pieces did you guys like the most?
05.06.2024
#200- Episode 200! -Dan, Jac, Lung
Episode 200!! Thank you all for coming along with us on this journey. We are grateful for all the great connections we've made and all the interesting people we get to speak to. It still blows our mind that you...
05.02.2024
#199- "OMG for that price I can have 5 people walking around telling me the time"- Gaurav R, Collector
On this episode we speak to Gaurav (@highendtime) about all things Daniel Roth and whether the brand will ever be a Patek contender. We discuss Gaurav's own collecting journey and why he still appreciates unique and rare Roth pieces.
04.25.2024
#198- "Its faster for me to go from Geneva to Dubai than to reach his workshop"- Shahz Khan, Founder of Salon Des Horlogers/K2 Luxury
On this episode we speak to Shahz (@salondeshorlogers) about creating Salon Des Horlogers after establishing a reputable name for himself in the watch world after building up K2 Luxury. We discuss the independents and why it is necessary to have...
04.18.2024
#197- "We identified 250 features that affect the price of a watch"- Giovanni Prigigallo, Founder of EveryWatch
On this episode we speak to Giovanni (@everywatch_official) about creating a platform that tracks over 30 years of watch data, the correlation between case sizes and value, and how the platform will change watch collectors’ experiences.
04.11.2024
#196- "When I design a watch...I design the relationship you will have with that watch"- Benoit Mintiens, Founder of Ressence Watches
On this episode we speak to Benoit (@ressence_watches) about his industrial design background and how it has shaped the way he has created watches. We also discuss how the idea of using oil came about, why a Ressence watch has...
04.04.2024
#195- "Hong Kong used to be the centre of watchmaking, theres just no record of that"- Quinn Lai, Founder of DIY Watch Club and EONIQ Watches
On this episode we speak to Quinn about how he came up with the concepts for both his ventures (@diywatchclub and @eoniqdesign) , the value of "made in Hong Kong", how he balances business with passion and the struggles of...
02.29.2024
#194-"I don't think they had in mind that people would be collecting these pieces"- Luis, Collector
In this episode, we speak to Luis @movado_archive about the four different significant periods in Movado's history, the most collectible Movado pieces and the 331 movement.
02.22.2024
#193- "I think the best collections were built in the last 20 years"- John Goldberger, Collector and Author
In this episode we speak to John @goldberger about the three most important people you need in your watch journey, how he collects, what he thinks about his own collection, and his favorite modern Cartier.
02.16.2024
#192- "A real negotiation...me scoring big...those are the videos I like best"- Mike Nouveau, Vintage Watch Specialist
In this episode we speak to Mike about the success hes had on TikTok and Instagram, what the dealer code is, what collectors are asking for, and his ultimate 3 watch collection.
02.08.2024
#191- "A lot of retailers, after the pandemic, emphasized on "the journey" " -Luo Yong Wen, Collector
In this episode we speak to Yong Wen about his first watch, the Omega Seamaster, going on Patek's factory tour and why the brand remains the most special to him.
02.01.2024
#190- A message from all of us
HAPPY CNY! Woohoo!
01.25.2024
#189- Watch talk - Dan, Jac
On this episode Dan and Jac talk all things watches, watch fairs, and what they have seen lately.
01.19.2024
#188- "The lowest of the hierarchy...the cataloger"- Gertrude Wong, Phillips Auction Watches Cohead of Sales
On this episode we speak to Gertrude @g.wwh about her perspective on the auction world, what she has learned, and what she enjoys the most about her job.
01.11.2024
#187- ”I wanted something that had character, something completely different”- Jackie Ho, Collector
On this episode we speak to Jackie about his Irish background, what he learned from collecting vintage Rolex, his interest in independents and why he decided to start a watch group- Watchhoandco.
01.04.2024
#186- ”a lot of AD sales were super cool about it, ”its cool youre a dealer” ” – Alex Lau, Founder of The Horologist
On this episode we speak to Alex about how he transitioned from being a collector to becoming a dealer. What it has been like dealing in Hong Kong, running his business The Horologist @thehorologisthk, the dangers and safety in this...
12.28.2023
#185 Merry Xmas and Happy New Year ! - Dan, Jac, Lung
Just 3 more days till the end of 2023. We love you all for tuning in and giving us all the support and motivation to keep doing this. We are grateful to be able to interview so many special guests...
12.22.2023
#184- ”The kind of collector that intrigues me are the ones that focus on their own niche” – Helbert Tsang, Cofounder of The Horology Club
On this episode we speak to Helbert about his most memorable gathering, collectors that interest him, the watch community in Hong Kong and his love for independents.
12.14.2023
#183- ”We felt it was important to have plurality in terms of news” – Allen Farmelo & William Massena, Founders of The Watch Space
On this episode we speak to Allen and William about their new app The Watch Space, why we need to take a broader approach to watch journalism and what they hope to achieve with this app. Click to download the...
12.07.2023
#182- ”I had to be extremely stubborn to make this happen...every supplier was trying to gently advise me not to do it” – Slyvain Berneron, Founder of Berneron watches
On this episode we speak to Slyvain about the launch of Berneron watches, how he juggles both being a watch brand founder and being a full time creative director at Breitling. We also discuss the challenges he faced designing his...
11.30.2023
#181- ”You don’t want to look back on a book full of regrets” – Todd Searle, Author, Creative Director, Collector
On this episode we speak to Todd about his book 32 Regrets, how to discover the creativity in you and how to live a life without regrets. Todd has kindly offered our listeners a free compact version of the book...
11.23.2023
#180- ”We wanted to provide that safe protected environment for ladies to come in” – Deborah Wong & Stephanie Soh, Collectors and Founders of Ticktockbelles
On this episode we talk to Deb and Steph about the similarities between fashion and watches, building a female community, and their watch collecting philosophy.
11.16.2023
#179- Poop talk – Dan, Jac, Lung
Jac shares big news this episode and we exchange stories about poop.
11.09.2023
#178- “I want to create something...that feeling of cretaing is how it all started” – Amrita Katara, Editor of Tatler GMT Hong Kong
In this episode we speak to Amrita on how Harry Potter inspired her to write, the influence Bollywood has on the watch industry, and the power of social media in modern journalism.
11.02.2023
#177- “A product doesn’t define a business” – Ken Kuan, Founder of Delugs
In this episode we speak to Ken on how he turned a side hustle into a full blown business, why he enjoys studying other entrepreneurs' journeys and the possibility of running his own watch club.
10.26.2023
#176- “You couldn’t differentiate the man from the artist” – Evelyne and Alexia Genta, Wife & Daughter of Gerald Genta
In this episode we speak to Evelyne and Alexia about how Gerald saw the world as an artist, his love for nature and architecture, what he would be designing had he been based in Italy or France, and of course-...
10.19.2023
#175- “The most difficult thing I find from a design perspective are the entry level pieces...” – Ming Thein, Cofounder of MING Watches
In this episode we speak to Ming about how thinking out of the box keeps him creative, how he built MING, novelties, and his vision for the brand.
10.12.2023
#174- “Two years ago I had better things to do than look at pieces of metal” – Johnathan Chan, Cofounder of The Horology Club
In this episode, we speak to Johnathan about his vision for The Horology Club, how he intends to provide an educational angle and continue to make this hobby more inclusive.
10.05.2023
#173- “Librarians like to say cataloging is an art, not a science” – Dr Miranda Marraccini, Librarian
In this episode, we speak to Miranda about what it is like to run the library at the Horological Society of New York and why we should all go down for a visit.
09.28.2023
#172- REAL TALK – Dan, Jac, Lung
Time for a much needed catch up!
09.21.2023
#171- “The market cap is extremely important in preserving the brands in this industry” – Samuel Naldi, Pen collector and more
In this episode, we speak to Samuel about the pen industry’s landscape and the resemblance it has to the quartz crisis, whether pens are investment worthy, and what makes a good pen.
09.14.2023
#170- “They wont readily admit this came from the Americans” – Joshua Shapiro, Founder of J.N.Shapiro watches
In this episode, we speak to Josh about the impact of American watch making, similiarities between iPhones and pocket watches and the inspiration behind the basket weave design.
09.07.2023
#169- “Launching in China was an absolutely shitty idea” – Robin Tallendier, Co-founder of Atelier Wen
In this episode, we speak to Robin about the concept behind Atelier Wen, the meaning of its name, the difficulties of launching the brand and breaking the news to his father.
08.31.2023
#168- “The worst watches I worked on came from the 2000s” – Gael & Florian, Founders of Petermann Bedat
In this episode, we speak to Gael Petermann and Florian Bedat about the birth of their brand, who is rational one amongst the two, and the collaboration with Auffret for Only Watch 2023.
08.17.2023
#167- “My passion, you can see it on my face” – Kevin O’Dell, Collector
In this episode, we speak to Kevin (@theydid) about how his dad's decision to get him a job at a pawnshop led to the passion he has for watches today.
08.11.2023
#166- “You really have to turn over stock to make it work” – Ben, Founder of Watch Brothers London
In this episode, we speak to Ben @watchbrotherslondon about growing his business in the competitive secondary market, underrated brands we should look out for and more.
08.10.2023
#166- Summer 2023 – Jac, Dan, Lung
A much needed catch up ! Thank you guys always for all the love and support!
08.03.2023
#165-“We probably have the highest rate of people who are loyal to the brand”– Jean Marc Pontroue, CEO of Panerai
In this episode we speak to Jean Marc about Panerai’s success at building a community, their collaboration with Prada, and the future of the brand.
07.27.2023
#164-“You can’t have a sharp profile in your design language and please everybody”–Wilhelm Schmid, A Lange & Sohne’s CEO
In this episode we speak to Wilhelm about leadership, the shortage of watches in the industry, his own holy grail and more.
07.20.2023
#163-“In the two months I stopped working… I developed this watch”–Simon Brette , Watchmaker
In this episode we speak to Simon, a French independent watchmaker about his first release, his time at MB&F, and what’s next for the brand.
07.13.2023
#162– “These timepieces were the source of my memories with my dad”–Paul Boutros , Head of Americas for Phillips Watches
In this episode we speak to Paul about how he started off at Lockheed Martin and ended up at Phillips auction house and all the things he has experienced there.
07.06.2023
#161– “I wish heritage departments had their own budgets”–Part 2 Cameron Steiner , Host of Collectors Gene Radio
In part 2 of our interview with Cameron, we discuss the difference between hoarding and collecting, watch trends, and his own podcast.
06.29.2023
#160 - Team catchup !
It's been a while since the three of us caught up with each other. In this episode we talk about the Puyi sale, the Patek exhibition and more.
06.22.2023
#159- ”We’re not curing cancer here...we’re having fun”- Stephen Pulvirent, Founder of Rime & Reason
In this episode we speak to Stephen @sjpulvirent about being part of the original Hodinkee team, Hodinkee radio, and meeting friends through watches.
06.15.2023
#158- ”Red nail polish...I wonder who brought it along” - Martin Frei, Co-Founder of URWERK
In this episode we speak to Martin about how he grew URWERK and where the brand is heading next.
06.10.2023
#157 - ”I dont mean to boast...but i think most of them got their first Cartier because of me”- Alvin Chong, Collector
In this episode, we speak to Alvin (@watchrology) about Cartier and the community he has built in Singapore surrounding the brand.
06.01.2023
#156- ” ”He’s almost handsome” that has stuck with me...”- Andrew Morgan, Content Creator
Andrew is the man behind the camera on the Watchfinder videos. In this episode we speak to him about how these videos are created.
05.25.2023
#155– “My pebble ...one of those pristine safe queens” – Nick @cartierwatchnerd, Collector
In this episode we speak to Nick about all things Cartier.

What's The Waiting List Podcast about?

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The Waiting List Podcast episodes:

#203- "I just love gifting it puts a smile on my face"-Cameron Steiner, Collector and Host of Collectors Gene Radio

#202- Watches and Wonders 2024 -Dan, Jac, Lung

#Bonus Episode- ONLY WATCH 2024 -Dan, Jac, Lung

#200- Episode 200! -Dan, Jac, Lung

#199- "OMG for that price I can have 5 people walking around telling me the time"- Gaurav R, Collector

#198- "Its faster for me to go from Geneva to Dubai than to reach his workshop"- Shahz Khan, Founder of Salon Des Horlogers/K2 Luxury

#197- "We identified 250 features that affect the price of a watch"- Giovanni Prigigallo, Founder of EveryWatch

#196- "When I design a watch...I design the relationship you will have with that watch"- Benoit Mintiens, Founder of Ressence Watches

#195- "Hong Kong used to be the centre of watchmaking, theres just no record of that"- Quinn Lai, Founder of DIY Watch Club and EONIQ Watches

#194-"I don't think they had in mind that people would be collecting these pieces"- Luis, Collector

#193- "I think the best collections were built in the last 20 years"- John Goldberger, Collector and Author

#192- "A real negotiation...me scoring big...those are the videos I like best"- Mike Nouveau, Vintage Watch Specialist

#191- "A lot of retailers, after the pandemic, emphasized on "the journey" " -Luo Yong Wen, Collector

#190- A message from all of us

#189- Watch talk - Dan, Jac

#188- "The lowest of the hierarchy...the cataloger"- Gertrude Wong, Phillips Auction Watches Cohead of Sales

#187- ”I wanted something that had character, something completely different”- Jackie Ho, Collector

#186- ”a lot of AD sales were super cool about it, ”its cool youre a dealer” ” – Alex Lau, Founder of The Horologist

#185 Merry Xmas and Happy New Year ! - Dan, Jac, Lung

#184- ”The kind of collector that intrigues me are the ones that focus on their own niche” – Helbert Tsang, Cofounder of The Horology Club

#183- ”We felt it was important to have plurality in terms of news” – Allen Farmelo & William Massena, Founders of The Watch Space

#182- ”I had to be extremely stubborn to make this happen...every supplier was trying to gently advise me not to do it” – Slyvain Berneron, Founder of Berneron watches

#181- ”You don’t want to look back on a book full of regrets” – Todd Searle, Author, Creative Director, Collector

#180- ”We wanted to provide that safe protected environment for ladies to come in” – Deborah Wong & Stephanie Soh, Collectors and Founders of Ticktockbelles

#179- Poop talk – Dan, Jac, Lung

#178- “I want to create something...that feeling of cretaing is how it all started” – Amrita Katara, Editor of Tatler GMT Hong Kong

#177- “A product doesn’t define a business” – Ken Kuan, Founder of Delugs

#176- “You couldn’t differentiate the man from the artist” – Evelyne and Alexia Genta, Wife & Daughter of Gerald Genta

#175- “The most difficult thing I find from a design perspective are the entry level pieces...” – Ming Thein, Cofounder of MING Watches

#174- “Two years ago I had better things to do than look at pieces of metal” – Johnathan Chan, Cofounder of The Horology Club

#173- “Librarians like to say cataloging is an art, not a science” – Dr Miranda Marraccini, Librarian

#172- REAL TALK – Dan, Jac, Lung

#171- “The market cap is extremely important in preserving the brands in this industry” – Samuel Naldi, Pen collector and more

#170- “They wont readily admit this came from the Americans” – Joshua Shapiro, Founder of J.N.Shapiro watches

#169- “Launching in China was an absolutely shitty idea” – Robin Tallendier, Co-founder of Atelier Wen

#168- “The worst watches I worked on came from the 2000s” – Gael & Florian, Founders of Petermann Bedat

#167- “My passion, you can see it on my face” – Kevin O’Dell, Collector

#166- “You really have to turn over stock to make it work” – Ben, Founder of Watch Brothers London

#166- Summer 2023 – Jac, Dan, Lung

#165-“We probably have the highest rate of people who are loyal to the brand”– Jean Marc Pontroue, CEO of Panerai

#164-“You can’t have a sharp profile in your design language and please everybody”–Wilhelm Schmid, A Lange & Sohne’s CEO

#163-“In the two months I stopped working… I developed this watch”–Simon Brette , Watchmaker

#162– “These timepieces were the source of my memories with my dad”–Paul Boutros , Head of Americas for Phillips Watches

#161– “I wish heritage departments had their own budgets”–Part 2 Cameron Steiner , Host of Collectors Gene Radio

#160 - Team catchup !

#159- ”We’re not curing cancer here...we’re having fun”- Stephen Pulvirent, Founder of Rime & Reason

#158- ”Red nail polish...I wonder who brought it along” - Martin Frei, Co-Founder of URWERK

#157 - ”I dont mean to boast...but i think most of them got their first Cartier because of me”- Alvin Chong, Collector

#156- ” ”He’s almost handsome” that has stuck with me...”- Andrew Morgan, Content Creator

#155– “My pebble ...one of those pristine safe queens” – Nick @cartierwatchnerd, Collector