Host: Rhonna Rickman
Guest: Julie Dragt
Podcast: The Way of Escape - Ep. 7 - Different Cult, Same Playbook?
Why do completely different high-control groups use so many of the same tactics?
In this follow-up episode, Rhonna Rickman and Julie Dragt discuss the striking similarities they recognized while watching HBO’s The Vow, a documentary series about NXIVM.
They explore how charismatic leaders gain devotion, accountability becomes control, personal information is weaponized, boundaries disappear, and fear keeps people from questioning or leaving. Through their own experiences in Remnant Fellowship, Rhonna and Julie examine the patterns that appear across high-control groups and the freedom that comes from finally recognizing them.
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Keywords: Remnant Fellowship, Gwen Shamblin, NXIVM, Keith Raniere, Julie Dragt, Rhonna Rickman, The Way of Escape, spiritual abuse, cult recovery