Kia ora, and welcome to The Wire for Rāpare Thursday!

This week, Spike speaks to:

- Labour MP Andrew Little about high rates of Defence Force attrition and the AUKUS alliance

- and Scott Optican about Trump's recent arrest, and its potential implications

Simon speaks to:

- Councillor Shane Henderson about Auckland Light Rail, the proposed extra harbour crossing and communities still recovering post-cyclone

- Morgan Donoghue from Ours Not Mines on mining on conservation land

- and Helen Petousis-Harris on a potential whooping cough epidemic