Kia ora, and welcome to The Wire for Rāpare Thursday!

Spike speaks to:

- Labour MP Andrew Little about his visit to the Shangri-La Indo-Pacific defense summit, and the Taumaru review of intelligence laws and services

- TEU organiser Ben Schmidt about the proposed job cuts at Massey University

- Natalie Vincent from Good Shepherd about the prevalance of Buy Now Pay Later debt

Simon speaks to:

- City Councillor Lotu Fuli on the budget negotiations starting today, abusive emails from Mayor Brown and the much contested sale of airport shares

- Associate Professor Grant Duncan on the new independent electoral review and its recommendations around term limits, prisoner voting rights and the "coattails" rule

- Professor John Townend about the risk of a major earthquake along the Alpine Fault over the next 50 years