On the first wire of 2020!

We are back with our weekly chat with Green party co-leader James Shaw. The Minister attended the climate change conference in Madrid (COP25) in December 2019 and we caught up on criticisms surrounding lack of substantial action and indigenious inclusivity. We also talked about proposed changes to the carbon emissions trading schemes, and the roll out of climate change education in schools.

Next, Sherry talks to Adelaide freelance writer and journalist Jemah Finn on the Australian bushfires and climate change protests. 

Finally Deb discusses with Playwright Stanley Makuwe on his new play Black Lover, about a NZ expat who became prime minister of Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe).