Nathalie Trutman has spent over 20 years transforming and redefining learning experiences. She wants to create healthier, more innovative working and learning environments. She is ex CEO of Hyper Island.

Nathalie talks about the magic of learning organisations. What does it actually mean to be a learning organisation? How can we cultivate habits that go beyond the training room? Rubens and Nathalie discuss the practices and processes that help people to grow. And they consider the importance of psychological safety needed for people to thrive.

In this first episode of The World Needs Magic, we sit down with Rory Adams to talk about creativity in magic and his forthcoming book, Only Ideas. You can order his book from the 8th of March here: https://onlyideasbook.com/ or follow him on https://www.instagram.com/onlyideasbook/