The Worship Nerds

In this episode with Dr. Nathan Myrick (Mercer University), we discuss his recent book _Music for Others: Care, Justice, and Relational Ethics in Christian Music (Oxford University Press, 2021). We explore what we are after in making music together -- and perhaps what we should be after in church music in particular. Namely, what kinds of relationships should be the result of making music together.

I chat with my Worship Leader Research teammate Marc Jolicoeur about his role on the research team and how the project is impacting his work as a local church worship leader. He's an avid learner who brings his joy and hope to this important pastoral work.

I chat with my Worship Leader Research teammate Elias Dummer to talk about his contributions to the project, his hopes for the future of worship, and his experience in the worship music industry.

In this episode with Dr. Jonathan Welch (Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary), we discuss the legacy of the song story column in Worship Leader Magazine and what it can tell us about how worship songwriters imagine God's participation in the creative act. Welch encourages worship songwriters to know that God is present in the process, even if we aren't feeling some special divine anointing in the moment!

My fellow Worship Leader Research teammate Dr. Shannan Baker takes a minute to chat about the WLR project, her hopes as a researcher, and what animates her ongoing care for the contemporary worship phenomenon as a researcher.

In this episode, we talk with Dr. Noel Snyder, author of the book _Sermons that Sing: Music and the Practice of Preaching_ (IVP Academic, 2021). Dr. Snyder explores the musicality of the preaching moment as we discuss the preaching of Elevation Church Pastor and songwriter Steven Furtick.

In this episode, we talk with Dr. Marcell Silva Steuernagel (Dallas, TX), author of the book _Church Music Through the Lens of Performance_ (Routledge, 2021). Dr. Silva Steuernagel discusses the negative baggage of the language of "performance" in worship and helps us reimagine its usefulness. Instead of shying away, he encourages us to re-embrace "performance" for worship practices in order to be more deeply engaged, freed to lead, and more fully ourselves before God.

In this episode, we talk with Dr. Maren Haynes Marchesini (Helena, MO). Dr. Haynes Marchesini talks with us about the music and worship culture at the infamous Mars Hill Church, Seattle WA. Our conversation explores the relationship between the subcultural musical styles and the Pastor Mark Driscoll's niche, aggressive approach to a patriarchal and gender complementarian faith. Dr. Haynes Marchesini encourages us to think about reflect regularly our worship enacts our values as a community and wrestle with our inherited traditions.

In this episode, we talk with Dr. Zac Hicks (Birmingham, AL). Dr. Hicks discusses a general posture toward technology in worship and how to think about what Christian scripture and tradition might have to say about it. Our conversation explores the relationship between technology and culture, conflict over changes in technology, and why we worship leaders might need to develop a more discerning approach to worship technologies.

In this episode, we talk with Anneli Loepp Thiessen (University of Ottawa). Thiessen discusses the role that gender plays in shaping the contemporary worship music industry, especially when it comes to songwriting. Our conversation explores the relationship between women and the top CCLI charts, language about human-divine encounter in contemporary worship, and why we might want to think more expansively about biblical metaphors for God in contemporary worship songs.