In this part of Chapter 9, Dr. Elbie and Andrew get into a rather intense discussion of a major concern about people's jobs that can be cut as a result of the type of program that the War on Waste represents. It gets very intense and doesn't have a nice neat solution. And then Dr. Elbie gets into a discussion of how the Yes/No Chart modifies behavior. This is probably Len's best discussion or description of how Yes/No charts do modify behavior.