Everald Compton has met every PM since Menzies, counts John Howard as a friend, and says Julia Gillard was the best political negotiator he ever saw.

Yet he's never belonged to a political party, and says he's a man of deep faith, but doesn't call himself a Christian.

Twice awarded an Order of Australia, Everald has written myriad books, and been a tireless campaigner for social justice issues.

GUEST: Everald Compton Historian, author, and social entrepreneur with a focus on faith, ethics, and governance.