In episode #9 of the Zachtronics podcast I'm joined by Keith to interview Chris Crawford, the creator of a bunch of historically notable games, including the first commercial computer wargame. We talk about how he started making games, his time at Atari, and his post-Atari career as an "indie game developer" starting in the 1980s. We also talk about the design and philosophy of wargames, and a surprising amount about Arthurian legend... We mention a bunch of books in this episode, so here are some of them: Chris Crawford on Game Design, by Chris Crawford Simulating War, by Philip Sabin How to Make War, by James Dunnigan De re metallica, by Georgius Agricola De Re Atari, by Chris Crawford et al. Interface, by Neal Stephenson LINK: Chris's KIM-1 System (Closed, Open, Main Board, Tiny Terminals, Early "IDE", Tanktics Map) LINK: Chris Crawford's Kingdom (1984) Download The Zachtronics Podcast: Episode #9 (74.9 MB, duration: 1:39:36)